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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
To: Mallchad Skeghyeph <ncaprisunfan@gmail.com>
Cc: 49261@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#49261: 28.0.50; File Locking Breaks Presumptuous Toolchains
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2021 12:55:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bl7m2thg.fsf@gnus.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADrO7Mje3DstmjxutZcpx33jWJwgE_z+hGfJc4aON1CYOpyJxA@mail.gmail.com> (Mallchad Skeghyeph's message of "Wed, 30 Jun 2021 19:51:56 +0100")

(Please keep the debbugs address in the CCs -- otherwise the message
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Mallchad Skeghyeph <ncaprisunfan@gmail.com> writes:

>  ...even if the lock files are symlinks (which they not necessarily
>  are), we need to handle the case of several files with identical
>  basenames in different directories.  (Their being symlinks is
>  unimportant, because the target of the symlink doesn't exist.)
>
> Actually, is there even a good reason to keep relying on symlinks in the future?
> Considering that.. ahem, some Operating Systems cannot do symlinks for the
> user?
> If it were treated as a normal file you could load it up with whatever metadata
> you want.

Using a normal file should also work, I think?  But it'd be slightly
less efficient on some common popular file systems.

>  Or just use the UNIIFY logic from auto-save-file-name-transforms
>  unconditionally...
>
> It seems most of `make-auto-save-file-name` makes very little assumptions 
> about how we're modifying the file, actually,
> so it shouldn't be too too problematic to make it work for both.
> Though, I would like an optional single variable for a directory for both,
> as oppose to a slightly opaqueregex.
>
>  Remote, I think, otherwise the lock can be easily ignored from another
>  machine.
>
> Yes. I think we need to keep compatibility with the current lock, if its noticed. 
> Remote or local.
> In the case of remote files, we'd have to assume others might be using the
> current 
> lock behaviour.

Remote files are a problem, but what to do here would be up to the user
(as it is with autosave files).






  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-07-01 10:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-28 17:38 bug#49261: 28.0.50; File Locking Breaks Presumptuous Toolchains Mallchad Skeghyeph
2021-06-30 13:00 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-06-30 13:26   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 14:08     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
     [not found]       ` <CADrO7Mje3DstmjxutZcpx33jWJwgE_z+hGfJc4aON1CYOpyJxA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-07-01 10:55         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen [this message]
2021-07-01 12:58           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-06-30 16:07     ` Michael Albinus
2021-06-30 16:16       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-01 11:38         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-06-30 19:31   ` Juri Linkov
2021-07-01 16:57   ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-01 18:31     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-02 11:06       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-02 12:32         ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-07 16:01         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 16:07           ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-07 16:13             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 16:40               ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-07 16:57                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 16:55           ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-07 16:59             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 17:36               ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-07 18:08                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 18:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 18:50                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 19:40                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 20:03                   ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-08  6:03                     ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-08 19:53                       ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-09  6:30                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-09  8:28                           ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-09 10:45                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-09 11:01                               ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-09 16:31                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-12 13:53                                   ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-12 14:03                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-12 14:37                                       ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-12 17:30                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-12 17:35                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-12 17:38                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-12 18:00                                               ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-12 18:25                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-12 18:46                                                   ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-12 19:04                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-13 17:53                                                       ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-13 16:30                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-13 16:31                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-13 16:41                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-13 17:59                                                   ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-13 19:00                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-13 19:09                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-13 19:36                                                       ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-13 17:55                                                 ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-13 19:05                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-16 16:15                                                     ` Michael Albinus
2021-07-17 14:06                                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 20:05                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 20:09                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 20:15                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 20:10                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 20:18                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 20:29                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 20:37                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 20:55                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 21:04                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 22:22                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-08  0:09                                   ` bug#49261: Segfault during loadup Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-08  6:35                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-08 12:51                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-11  8:36                                     ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-11 10:21                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-11 15:25                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-12  7:16                                           ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-12 12:07                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-12 14:50                                               ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-12 14:56                                                 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-07-12 15:54                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-13 23:12                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-14  7:42                                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2021-07-14 22:04                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-14 22:10                                                         ` Andreas Schwab
2021-07-14 12:36                                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-14 22:24                                                       ` Paul Eggert
2021-07-15  6:13                                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-11 11:32                                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-08  6:15                                   ` bug#49261: 28.0.50; File Locking Breaks Presumptuous Toolchains Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-08  6:20                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-08 12:44                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-08 13:11                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-08 13:13                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-08  6:17                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-08 12:42                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-08 12:49                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-08 13:16                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-08 13:34                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-08 16:47                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-10 16:25                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-10 17:04                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-10 17:15                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-10 17:20                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 18:02           ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 18:17             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 18:20               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 18:42               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 18:58                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 19:03                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-07-07 19:20                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 18:50               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-07-07 19:22                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen

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