From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Add hints to documentation of car and cdr for (e)lisp newcomers - take 2 Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2021 18:03:00 +0200 Message-ID: <87bl74evd7.fsf@gnus.org> References: <8735shrl57.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <83v95c7v3v.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17861"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Adam =?utf-8?Q?Sj=C3=B8gren?= , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 14 18:05:10 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m3hNm-0004Ti-Cl for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 18:05:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57904 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m3hNl-0002CI-Ci for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 12:05:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34242) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m3hLp-0006gm-Ui for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 12:03:10 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2]:35078) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m3hLo-0007V9-EE; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 12:03:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=jEtwWuMdFI4EgFOBlxVu7gLr8tFYO831JJT0lXny7Hk=; b=PYvVscBce6YKzgSglw7bQN7VXZ RjPVErBZbZzmX5REg2+jt1tYq6TcDM+Ef4ycH+sgx/Q5I+kqIeVp0Z9jPcRhoAqwJKzp1rEkhv//f 5BvT0S0DG9gQjwHiisOy2k1ONAe6mesqyG8x7icKAVIglA7TVGf817ddTDx+V+c3ped8=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m3hLh-0005NL-2Y; Wed, 14 Jul 2021 18:03:03 +0200 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEXAvcTBlz+0Uy1l Uzn////h+kdSAAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+UHDhAALhhSJQ0AAAG7SURBVDjLhZSNsewg CIWJNiDaQMQGAvTf2z2o2WTfz1xmxzV8cADjhOh/xtP+4ShfYeXZFOmpJ0mpCFah85CjnBPUFFZT LWfq1BP3c4I+/YgmOpMfPZVTAgyJFAKIaDEJEDWaCJ4cPxnDFqgPMCwGgADjM91gmkXGiF2/MyLB kOOQChui3Gj4Y7FHkpsrU9tOCZWdIq7IyDn8NiWGPKBY+LOhMETEXoDyzhDxnfNkbCl/1djFN5Bf gOiag1e7HlL2Bl+mCGsPqFvRjXtQgNWVLEUbAV0N4NHil15kRF/kjf0OGT7uAQvNOrSB8T3HRYce +6ijCqPGbCcuIFWeLZq5BJAI4YtqEeZ1DNK5hxTAoIz+FxhuvcquYdys9JWAOIRUKs14xQ1pinac RxDi7Fwy3CGk3IczJkKH+OOCErXwMX1Y7AE0QeNQZZbRFwiVcSnXHlNxFegSzoirZpcL8foNUDSz eICY6QFLF0tZR15HFF/gCKBrcsW1eIGuTee2+Znkc6kLI/zSNt/+le5XMG+GOk+AgHT0GxxTROcJ ylXj0/ABFUDmAw77Bp71z1u3vyl/GV7t62ldaGw6+w8N1JDo7S6oAAAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVh dGUAMjAyMS0wNy0xNFQxNjowMDo0NSswMDowMOmFEUsAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjEt MDctMTRUMTY6MDA6NDUrMDA6MDCY2Kn3AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: The Gladiators's _Rocksteady Got Soul_: "Mr Sweet" In-Reply-To: <83v95c7v3v.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 14 Jul 2021 18:50:28 +0300") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:271218 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > The doc string nowadays includes a pointer to the ELisp manual, where > you can find a description of what is 'car' and what is 'cdr'. I > think that's "good enough". The doc strings could say something terse like "The `car' is usually the first element in LIST, and the `cdr' is usually the rest of LIST" perhaps? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no