From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emoji support in Emacs: My first impressions Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2021 04:59:56 +0100 Message-ID: <87bl2ut1vn.fsf@gnus.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="456"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Rudolf =?utf-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 09 05:01:00 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mkIJg-000ASx-Ng for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 09 Nov 2021 05:01:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35898 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mkIJd-0002U9-TU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 08 Nov 2021 23:00:57 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:59206) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mkIIw-0001oQ-Bs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Nov 2021 23:00:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2] (port=44502 helo=quimby.gnus.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mkIIo-0003Ji-Vm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Nov 2021 23:00:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID :In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=igYsr5uZZJ9wU/tBYHI9kuFu2/QfnMcslTxBmZXYlK8=; b=uD2fAhv+dkFbFqEHK/kWdWFfly wM4IAY6v5AcmMJFaaZb6P5BxpDusWqJBS4LwQjY/YZ4PbAN2W3eILGoiAxcriAqUnTgNUozcB7iSC 5LBjWzGGua9Skb03UNfMvauvAzKYyGvJ7mmR8XX+z9VsmxfdZJilIjRTFuXOfOjmO9pc=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mkIIf-0008N9-Ah; Tue, 09 Nov 2021 05:00:04 +0100 Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAAD1BMVEW5uLhbWVmAf34i ISD////vkLw8AAAAAWJLR0QEj2jZUQAAAAd0SU1FB+ULCQMSBhNUNbUAAAG1SURBVDjLdZSLkesw CEVZvQaMaABwA4vpv7e9oNhRZvI040ThCC4fK0TsrkSDao1+7HB8q8il9CwlIzmyDgCY+8v+w8Mm M2PLLNOmL6fBrBYcc1wAMfn2cObDJSLjAMDawBwS4jwJ53newOBPZ/IlAKfEDYZxpo4MYYTCp9sS b3CRpCvSNjjwAm4scEEsdWTOE6G7+gXmT/IxSg+5QB92bABi4FFieYFaDVINhFYkfHLUF+x5TeAF TMqEImApn2ywFg7KcvgAdYwzZANW2m2GYn4A49tYz3WDTnI7Gd5xkwJgj43UmlCa3WmVoefWIKAx FQElwHA6VpmUAF5KZ7RXscobALXTGGboQGCssVIhiayRu3q1TvKusiYYDbRGIfwGiDyr6XBIl6ck SoFWPu16t0TuokqWY/OoWaqOfwfktZUWqLQxWKsyMJD5AOZSrT50j3nz6DeDRTrPN1j7Or73uIFI x8jJO6EVITvhD49VWZZU7IiePNClt0oI5dcV9h9w+VeAK0rfwGWG27L04tziX1xX8lzZ2i6sBXgH v70f/Wez+vwK9Vvvcbz+Vx6ATf3GfcZl1j++RZlXQCgnCwAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAy MS0xMS0wOVQwMzoxODowNSswMDowMEnha68AAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjEtMTEtMDlU MDM6MTg6MDUrMDA6MDA4vNMTAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Now-Playing: Arc's _Rogue Pulse: Gravity Collapse (10)_: "Breathe Couplings Undulation Map" In-Reply-To: ("Rudolf =?utf-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D=22'?= =?utf-8?Q?s?= message of "Mon, 08 Nov 2021 20:56:59 +0100") X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f9:2b:f0f::2; envelope-from=larsi@gnus.org; helo=quimby.gnus.org X-Spam_score_int: -35 X-Spam_score: -3.6 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279075 Archived-At: Rudolf Adamkovi=C4=8D writes: > (1) The "emoji-insert" command (C-x 8 i) inserts emojis but so do > other emoji commands (in C-x 8). I think we could improve the name to > better say what the command does. For instance, we could call the > command "emoji-browse", as it allows the user to browse emojis by > category. That said, all the other commands, such as "emoji-list", > "emoji-recent", or "emoji-search" have great names and do what a new > user, such as myself, would expect. Yes, the command was named when it was the only emoji command, so it got a pretty generic name. But I'm not sure `emoji-browse' is an improvement -- all these commands let you browse the emojis... I'm open to other ideas. > (2) I noticed Emacs lists "emoji-insert" twice in "C-x 8", once under > "i" (insert) and once under "e" (for emoji, I suppose). As a > first-time user, I found that confusing. Which one do I use? Which one > do I put into my notes? Do we need two key bindings for browsing > emojis by category? I think one would do. It's on `C-x 8 e e' because that's easier to type, and on `C-x 8 e i' because that's mnemonic for "insert". It's pretty common to put commands on several keystrokes if that's convenient, but I can see how it'd be confusing in this instance. > Other than these two issues, I must say that the new functionality > impressed me. Clear naming, no unnecessary configuration, solid > performance, and more. Great, great work! Thanks. :-) --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no