From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#52205: Allow configuring multiple mail accounts for smtpmail.el Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2021 09:01:39 +0000 Message-ID: <87bl20bswc.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87fsrdmnqx.fsf@posteo.net> <87lf15arwk.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10888"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 52205@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 01 19:59:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1msUow-0002cs-V9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 19:59:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58006 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1msUov-0002AC-IW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 13:59:09 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58664) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1msUop-0002A3-48 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 13:59:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:34101) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1msUoo-0005cK-Cp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 13:59:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1msUoo-0006HQ-CK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 13:59:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Philip Kaludercic Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2021 18:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 52205 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 52205-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B52205.163838512424114 (code B ref 52205); Wed, 01 Dec 2021 18:59:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 52205) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2021 18:58:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45647 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1msUoV-0006Gr-SW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 13:58:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:60771) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1msUoT-0006Gc-UO for 52205@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 13:58:42 -0500 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [89.146.220.130]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 698B8240029 for <52205@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 1 Dec 2021 19:58:35 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1638385115; bh=Mv+qOWq4kR2T3mZTNLiRMJI0iyJbc4fcHcRhiUi2sVs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=OU64oq3r6sjD+D06QS4JMdXMmenYltPDoeKaHiV+1wNKXTsj8asvoVS/LvRZGxoeu YKIemyZ6UUn4sfNi3RWiBf83FLlRdJDpKpdd0KlUDpE9ThsRZOK2NkbFyUj9YHZUmc LFu2JQ0/qTo1pS6UJAIWTT3NGm3HElo+49qPiyUQbXnDvoXRLCzWGsEgX/X1zoIMgV ItcYw+aRtrAW6eVY34BEwRoPytJlrP7unlvUrSnOf0TdtiGgMnM2RfFSEiLUiDfLcR XteHDvZ0NHouPLRbIC2pJiytHlVfl2U11PCH/Jjz/dKxM7N6RZhCwd7t7QyWQKQ273 lHJVEwNy1jn6g== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4J47f26NNPz9rwg; Wed, 1 Dec 2021 19:58:34 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <87lf15arwk.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 01 Dec 2021 05:08:27 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:221224 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Philip Kaludercic writes: > >> the below patch should allow for multiple mail accounts being configured >> for smtpmail.el, without having to use tricks like >> X-Message-SMTP-Method, that only work when the MUA also inserts them at >> the right time. > > The problem is that there's no limit to how people want to configure > their outgoing mail. That might be the case, but this is certainly one popular use-case, at least going by the activity seen on https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/MultipleSMTPAccounts. >> + (server (alist-get envelope-from smtpmail-smtp-server-alist >> + (list smtpmail-smtp-server) >> + nil #'string=)) > > And using just the envelope-from might be correct for your use case, but > it's not, in general, very useful. Would it be better if a function were to be provided? E.g. it would be evaluated in the buffer and return the from address? > If we want to add something like this to smtpmail, it has to allow a > full range of customisations for how to determine the server... and > that's best done in the MUA, in my opinion. Which is why it's > implemented via a header so the MUA can do this. The issue is that I am not writing using a MUA. Sometimes I just open C-x m directly or click on an email address, without Gnus being opened. Sure, I can hook message-setup-hook to check from and insert X-Message-SMTP-Method, but that's something everyone has to do for themselves, over and over again. -- Philip Kaludercic