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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:288082 Archived-At: Philip Kaludercic writes: > Do you think that the padding is necessary, or would just removing the > 3D box suffice? FWIW, we have themes like modus-vivendi built in for people who want flat mode lines, I don't see why the default has to change. I agree with Drew on this one.