From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31715: cl-incf and cl-decf error out when passed a nil-valued variable as 'offset' Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 15:11:13 +0200 Message-ID: <87bkwu7f9q.fsf@gnus.org> References: <1dff07f6-8da4-4e4c-a700-0bc39d6f2aa6@live.com> <874lii88hy.fsf@gmail.com> <87o9gqw21y.fsf@web.de> <871sdm851q.fsf@gmail.com> <87vaay3w2g.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35737"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=C3=A9ment?= Pit-Claudel , Noam Postavsky , 31715@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 21 15:12:26 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nhWbi-000920-B4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 15:12:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37522 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nhWbg-00007J-TB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:12:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:56460) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nhWbK-0008Tg-J6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:12:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:54780) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nhWbK-0007JG-Aa for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:12:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nhWbK-0000ES-4l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:12:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2022 13:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31715 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 31715-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31715.1650546686822 (code B ref 31715); Thu, 21 Apr 2022 13:12:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 31715) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Apr 2022 13:11:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48674 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nhWak-0000DC-6x for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:11:26 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:56166) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nhWah-0000Ct-Ns for 31715@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 09:11:24 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=WiyDqOrcMCy+NTa7XIMBRrdpzso1iYemNhwit2aXzWY=; b=GoJAu6WZk3lJ0Utbu/HU+sImCW vyKzhoD4yvwwUhuo5D9JT+6kFKFIN7sX2mBK20OEeawYXtXAQzQ9qVMmgL65O7FmO4P2fa6RikYAr TPoHdprhHkEy0FWkAYRc3R4Z3nMGmBMKhgs9PGx0YAdKV/zCpljpdE//I68JJOkJeMOI=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nhWaY-0005GT-Jp; Thu, 21 Apr 2022 15:11:16 +0200 X-Now-Playing: William Basinski's _The Disintegration Loops_: "DLP 1.1" In-Reply-To: <87vaay3w2g.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Tue, 05 Jun 2018 02:40:07 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:230360 Archived-At: Michael Heerdegen writes: > It's not that super clear. If we keep the current definition (though I > would rather like to see this fixed if possible), maybe consider to add > something like "If X is specified, it should be an expression that > should evaluate to a number". Reading this bug thread, different tweaks were suggested, but they all seem to have various disadvantages. So I think the conclusion here is that doing this documentation clarification is the safest thing, so I've now done so in Emacs 29. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no