From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: text formating Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2023 18:24:08 +0100 Message-ID: <87bkmall1j.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <3b5f0e6f-fba9-400c-da28-a63de55649a8@posteo.de> <5dfdd6d1-ffe3-668a-4c4e-247d563eaec0@posteo.de> <83y1pgw35y.fsf@gnu.org> <83zg9vurxl.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27161"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:LnAbI3NSBGBKVVX2yebEhh6LjBE= Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 04 15:53:01 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pOJuX-0006sE-NA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 04 Feb 2023 15:53:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pOJuH-0003kE-RF; Sat, 04 Feb 2023 09:52:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNznS-0002O5-VF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2023 12:24:24 -0500 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pNznQ-0005gL-CD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2023 12:24:22 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pNznM-0006EC-Oo for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Feb 2023 18:24:16 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -15 X-Spam_score: -1.6 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 04 Feb 2023 09:52:44 -0500 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:142595 Archived-At: Jean Louis wrote: >> If you are talking specifically about WYSIWYG printing, >> then yes, we still aren't where we should be, especially >> with non-ASCII text; patches welcome. But the OP didn't >> mention that, so this is not necessarily what was >> the issue. > > Here is how Enriched Text may become word processor with > pleasant result Most people are from the opposite side of the spectrum, i.e. text editor, not word processor. Here is where you should look https://www.techradar.com/news/the-best-free-word-processor In principle, I don't see why Emacs cannot be like that as well for those whow opt-in on it, but in practise it's an uphill battle - I don't see us every getting there, for the said reason, most people who are here or come here do that for the opposite, the text/programmer's editor side of it. Jean, what features is it exactly that you miss? For example, that they have in LibreOffice Writer? Because, if you focus on those, maybe you have better luck getting them individually so to speak. -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal