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From: Jens Schmidt via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: andrea corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>, 67005@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#67005: 30.0.50; improve nadivce/comp/trampoline handling
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2023 23:10:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bkbmiwpf.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv7cmbdhgc.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Mon, 20 Nov 2023 22:35:55 -0500")

Thanks, Stefan and Andrea, for your review.

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>>  (defcustom native-comp-never-optimize-functions
>> -  '(eval
>> -    ;; The following two are mandatory for Emacs to be working
>> -    ;; correctly (see comment in `advice--add-function'). DO NOT
>> -    ;; REMOVE.
>> -    macroexpand rename-buffer)
>> +  ;; Do not include functions `macroexpand' or `rename-buffer' as
>> +  ;; default values here.  Despite the previous "DO NOT REMOVE"
>> +  ;; warnings these are no longer needed.  See also the comment on
>> +  ;; `advice--add-function' and bug#67005.  FIXME: But do include
>> +  ;; `eval' as temporary (?) remedy for bug#67141.
>> +  '(eval)
>>    "Primitive functions to exclude from trampoline optimization.
>
> I'm not sure I like the idea of keeping the whole history in comments.
> I suggest you try and trim it down to the part that seems likely
> to reoccur, like "We used to list those functions that were advised
> during preload but we now prefer to disallow them in `advice-add`".

Ok.

Only slightly off-topic: When changing the default value of user option
`native-comp-never-optimize-functions', which now both Andrea and I have
done, does one also need to bump the :version?  Or is this taken care of
automagically?  If it needs to be done manually, to which value should
we/I set it?

>> In `addvice--add-function' I wanted to at least preserve the comment
>> from my initial patch (see attachment to
>> https://yhetil.org/emacs-bugs/874jhv9921.fsf@sappc2.fritz.box/).  I
>> think it might help historical research if for that removal there is
>> something that a "git blame" could be hooked onto.
>
> `C-x v h` is your friend.  It was weird in the fist place to put the
> trampoline stuff there (e.g. it's specific to functions stored in symbols so
> it would have been more logical to put it into `advice-add` instead), so
> it doesn't seem very likely that this will re-occur.

Also Ok.  `C-x v h` is my *new* friend.

>>  <<>>"
>> +  ;; Actively disallow function advices (here) and advices in general
>> +  ;; on primitives (in `comp--install-trampoline') during bootstrap
>> +  ;; for the following reasons:
>> +  ;; - Advices in Emacs' core are generally considered bad style.
>> +  ;; - `Snarf-documentation' looses docstrings of advised dumped
>> +  ;;   functions (bug#66032#20).
>> +  ;; - Native compilation does not generate trampolines for advised
>> +  ;;   primitives while loadup.el executes.
>
> I don't think this last point is true/relevant, is it?
> IIUC it would use a "normal funcall", which doesn't need a trampoline.

Yup, I got it messed up, again.  BTW, it was this test in function
`Fcomp__install_trampoline' which put me on the wrong track:

  /* FIXME: add a post dump load trampoline machinery to remove this
     check.  */
  if (will_dump_p ())
    signal_error ("Trying to advice unexpected primitive before dumping",
		  subr_name);

I think during normal bootstrap this test should never fire, since this
function never should be called, since its call is protected by
`native-comp-enable-subr-trampolines'.

>>    ;; TODO:
>>    ;; - record the advice location, to display in describe-function.
>> -  ;; - change all defadvice in lisp/**/*.el.
>> -  ;; - obsolete advice.el.
>> +  (when purify-flag
>> +    (error "Invalid pre-dump advice on %s" symbol))
>>    (let* ((f (symbol-function symbol))
>>
>> What do you think?
>
> Beside the comments about the comments, it's a +1 from me.

And here is another comment question: Do you think this snippet that
made me so upset:

      (let* ((f (if (symbolp callee)
                    (symbol-function callee)
                  (cl-assert (byte-code-function-p callee))
                  callee))
             (subrp (subrp f))
             (comp-func-callee (comp-func-in-unit callee)))

deserves some explanation?  Along the lines of `subrp' not working as
one might expect on advised primitives, which is exactly what we need
here ...

Will provide a new patch.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-21 22:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-08 22:25 bug#67005: 30.0.50; improve nadivce/comp/trampoline handling Jens Schmidt via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-08 22:50 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-12 19:50   ` Jens Schmidt via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-14  8:02   ` Jens Schmidt via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-14  8:31     ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-14 20:23       ` Jens Schmidt via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-15  0:06     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-15 21:47       ` Jens Schmidt via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-20 23:04         ` Jens Schmidt via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-21  3:35           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-21 11:07             ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-21 22:10             ` Jens Schmidt via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2023-11-21 22:18               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-22 15:40                 ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-22 16:07                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-22 16:31                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-23 13:02                       ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-23 16:27                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-23 20:26                           ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-22 22:01                 ` Jens Schmidt via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-23  6:19                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-23 15:01                     ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-23 21:13                       ` Jens Schmidt via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-23 15:00                   ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-23 16:24                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-23 16:38                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-23 20:21                         ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-23 21:36                       ` Jens Schmidt via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-23 23:48                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-25 12:41                           ` Jens Schmidt via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-25 14:39                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-25 18:35                               ` Jens Schmidt via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-04 20:08                                 ` Jens Schmidt via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-04 20:47                                   ` Andrea Corallo
2023-12-04 23:57                                     ` Andy Moreton
2023-12-05 17:09                                       ` Andrea Corallo
2023-12-05 21:32                                         ` Jens Schmidt via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-06  0:13                                           ` Andy Moreton
2023-12-18 21:27                                           ` Jens Schmidt via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-23 21:18                     ` Jens Schmidt via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-22 14:18               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-16  8:46       ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-17 15:58         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-17 20:37           ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-17 20:44             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-20  8:58               ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-20 13:13                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-18  7:05             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-11-20  9:31               ` Andrea Corallo
2023-11-13  9:54 ` Andrea Corallo

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