* bug#67577: 29.1; Comments in kill-region seem to explain unless wrong
@ 2023-12-02 5:36 Xiyue Deng
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2023-12-02 7:47 ` bug#67577: 29.1; Comments in kill-region seem to explain unless wrong Eli Zaretskii
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From: Xiyue Deng @ 2023-12-02 5:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 67577
It says "'unless' is an 'if' without the then-part", which I think it
meant to say "'unless' is the inverse of 'if' ...", as I think "an 'if'
without the then-part" is supposed to be 'when'. Let me know if my
understanding is wrong. If not, please find the patch in my next post.
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* bug#67577: Acknowledgement (29.1; Comments in kill-region seem to explain unless wrong)
[not found] ` <handler.67577.B.170149541415494.ack@debbugs.gnu.org>
@ 2023-12-02 5:46 ` Xiyue Deng
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Xiyue Deng @ 2023-12-02 5:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 67577
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[-- Attachment #1: 0001-Fix-comment-in-code-example-in-kill-region-implement.patch --]
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From 5e47c98228eccf53b95b8a268dcaf4f43c88a35b Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2023 21:30:31 -0800
Subject: [PATCH] Fix comment in code example in kill-region implementation
(Bug#67577)
* doc/lispintro/emacs-lisp-intro.texi (Complete kill-region): fix
comment on 'unless' being the inverse of 'if'
---
doc/lispintro/emacs-lisp-intro.texi | 2 +-
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
diff --git a/doc/lispintro/emacs-lisp-intro.texi b/doc/lispintro/emacs-lisp-intro.texi
index e4a0f585f69..74efd536182 100644
--- a/doc/lispintro/emacs-lisp-intro.texi
+++ b/doc/lispintro/emacs-lisp-intro.texi
@@ -7904,7 +7904,7 @@ The command \\[yank] can retrieve it from there. @dots{} "
;; @bullet{} Since order matters, pass point first.
(interactive (list (point) (mark)))
;; @bullet{} And tell us if we cannot cut the text.
- ;; 'unless' is an 'if' without a then-part.
+ ;; 'unless' is the inverse of 'if' without a then-part.
(unless (and beg end)
(error "The mark is not set now, so there is no region"))
@end group
--
2.39.2
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Xiyue Deng
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* bug#67577: 29.1; Comments in kill-region seem to explain unless wrong
2023-12-02 5:36 bug#67577: 29.1; Comments in kill-region seem to explain unless wrong Xiyue Deng
[not found] ` <handler.67577.B.170149541415494.ack@debbugs.gnu.org>
@ 2023-12-02 7:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-02 9:21 ` Xiyue Deng
1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-12-02 7:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Xiyue Deng; +Cc: 67577
> From: Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2023 21:36:11 -0800
>
>
> It says "'unless' is an 'if' without the then-part", which I think it
> meant to say "'unless' is the inverse of 'if' ...", as I think "an 'if'
> without the then-part" is supposed to be 'when'. Let me know if my
> understanding is wrong. If not, please find the patch in my next post.
We already fixed that part. The text now says:
The ‘kill-region’ function definition also has an ‘unless’ macro; it
is the opposite of ‘when’. The ‘unless’ macro is like an ‘if’ except
that it has no then-clause, and it supplies an implicit ‘nil’ for that.
So I don't think this needs to be fixed anymore.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread* bug#67577: 29.1; Comments in kill-region seem to explain unless wrong
2023-12-02 7:47 ` bug#67577: 29.1; Comments in kill-region seem to explain unless wrong Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-12-02 9:21 ` Xiyue Deng
2023-12-02 12:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Xiyue Deng @ 2023-12-02 9:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 67577
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2023 21:36:11 -0800
>>
>>
>> It says "'unless' is an 'if' without the then-part", which I think it
>> meant to say "'unless' is the inverse of 'if' ...", as I think "an 'if'
>> without the then-part" is supposed to be 'when'. Let me know if my
>> understanding is wrong. If not, please find the patch in my next post.
>
> We already fixed that part. The text now says:
>
> The ‘kill-region’ function definition also has an ‘unless’ macro; it
> is the opposite of ‘when’. The ‘unless’ macro is like an ‘if’ except
> that it has no then-clause, and it supplies an implicit ‘nil’ for that.
>
> So I don't think this needs to be fixed anymore.
Hmm, I think the comment part on latest head is still the same as last
time I checked. Please also take a look at my patch and see whether it
is still worth committing.
--
Xiyue Deng
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* bug#67577: 29.1; Comments in kill-region seem to explain unless wrong
2023-12-02 9:21 ` Xiyue Deng
@ 2023-12-02 12:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-03 0:17 ` Xiyue Deng
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-12-02 12:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Xiyue Deng; +Cc: 67577
> From: Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>
> Cc: 67577@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2023 01:21:37 -0800
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> >> From: Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>
> >> Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2023 21:36:11 -0800
> >>
> >>
> >> It says "'unless' is an 'if' without the then-part", which I think it
> >> meant to say "'unless' is the inverse of 'if' ...", as I think "an 'if'
> >> without the then-part" is supposed to be 'when'. Let me know if my
> >> understanding is wrong. If not, please find the patch in my next post.
> >
> > We already fixed that part. The text now says:
> >
> > The ‘kill-region’ function definition also has an ‘unless’ macro; it
> > is the opposite of ‘when’. The ‘unless’ macro is like an ‘if’ except
> > that it has no then-clause, and it supplies an implicit ‘nil’ for that.
> >
> > So I don't think this needs to be fixed anymore.
>
> Hmm, I think the comment part on latest head is still the same as last
> time I checked.
Sorry, I don't understand: what is the problem with the current text?
'when' is NOT 'if' without 'then', it's 'if' without 'else'..
> Please also take a look at my patch and see whether it is still
> worth committing.
The current text was approved by several people,m including Richard
Stallman, so I think it is okay as is.
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* bug#67577: 29.1; Comments in kill-region seem to explain unless wrong
2023-12-02 12:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2023-12-03 0:17 ` Xiyue Deng
2023-12-03 6:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Xiyue Deng @ 2023-12-03 0:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 67577
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> From: Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>
>> Cc: 67577@debbugs.gnu.org
>> Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2023 01:21:37 -0800
>>
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>>
>> >> From: Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>
>> >> Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2023 21:36:11 -0800
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It says "'unless' is an 'if' without the then-part", which I think it
>> >> meant to say "'unless' is the inverse of 'if' ...", as I think "an 'if'
>> >> without the then-part" is supposed to be 'when'. Let me know if my
>> >> understanding is wrong. If not, please find the patch in my next post.
>> >
>> > We already fixed that part. The text now says:
>> >
>> > The ‘kill-region’ function definition also has an ‘unless’ macro; it
>> > is the opposite of ‘when’. The ‘unless’ macro is like an ‘if’ except
>> > that it has no then-clause, and it supplies an implicit ‘nil’ for that.
>> >
>> > So I don't think this needs to be fixed anymore.
>>
>> Hmm, I think the comment part on latest head is still the same as last
>> time I checked.
>
> Sorry, I don't understand: what is the problem with the current text?
> 'when' is NOT 'if' without 'then', it's 'if' without 'else'..
>
Ah looks like I miss understood. Sorry for the confusion. Please feel
free to close.
>> Please also take a look at my patch and see whether it is still
>> worth committing.
>
> The current text was approved by several people,m including Richard
> Stallman, so I think it is okay as is.
--
Xiyue Deng
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* bug#67577: 29.1; Comments in kill-region seem to explain unless wrong
2023-12-03 0:17 ` Xiyue Deng
@ 2023-12-03 6:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2023-12-03 6:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Xiyue Deng; +Cc: 67577-done
> From: Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>
> Cc: 67577@debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2023 16:17:50 -0800
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
> >> From: Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>
> >> Cc: 67577@debbugs.gnu.org
> >> Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2023 01:21:37 -0800
> >>
> >> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> >>
> >> >> From: Xiyue Deng <manphiz@gmail.com>
> >> >> Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2023 21:36:11 -0800
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> It says "'unless' is an 'if' without the then-part", which I think it
> >> >> meant to say "'unless' is the inverse of 'if' ...", as I think "an 'if'
> >> >> without the then-part" is supposed to be 'when'. Let me know if my
> >> >> understanding is wrong. If not, please find the patch in my next post.
> >> >
> >> > We already fixed that part. The text now says:
> >> >
> >> > The ‘kill-region’ function definition also has an ‘unless’ macro; it
> >> > is the opposite of ‘when’. The ‘unless’ macro is like an ‘if’ except
> >> > that it has no then-clause, and it supplies an implicit ‘nil’ for that.
> >> >
> >> > So I don't think this needs to be fixed anymore.
> >>
> >> Hmm, I think the comment part on latest head is still the same as last
> >> time I checked.
> >
> > Sorry, I don't understand: what is the problem with the current text?
> > 'when' is NOT 'if' without 'then', it's 'if' without 'else'..
> >
>
> Ah looks like I miss understood. Sorry for the confusion. Please feel
> free to close.
Done.
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