From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Semyonov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Vendoring code in a (Non?)GNU ELPA package Date: Fri, 29 Dec 2023 09:57:03 +0200 Message-ID: <87bka9786o.fsf@dsemy.com> References: <871qb83teq.fsf@dsemy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7568"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 29 09:04:37 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rJ7r9-0001lv-Ce for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 09:04:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rJ7qJ-0004fw-Fa; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 03:03:43 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rJ7qI-0004fP-7q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 03:03:42 -0500 Original-Received: from dsemy.com ([46.23.89.208]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rJ7qG-0004vs-3c; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 03:03:42 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; s=dkim; bh=urpy7kfl3gnwA D4VC4p7bHfpiYi/YpY1u8+94uUThUM=; h=date:references:in-reply-to: subject:cc:to:from; d=dsemy.com; b=haLVyVZn7buznjijiWmNqiow26JbNH1Rkp9 5K21uOlsXN87CF+R7MDDRScKZ9dEx3HmqOMFa+M7YOTv1MmG8xd8rtjIBTzPOofxkHt8Bo PcdJIXpit7n14MP6ZAIhefoPLVO9obpWRmTaw0NJW9vqUX1e5k8in9ojofVqZxwTyM6SP5 +sNWLQ6yL7wB6X9k0617f8U9xH+w6G0J8CC0NfjWAKxdB4ttdP5LVmelQgVagIs67Wh3ob fExx7skfrTE5U0nOT98IN72S1qPGPpphx92udSuixAeM/Pae337ChKbKC+N/Nzh7jaJhNo n9cvRAt4SgC3iw/1rtb8MNltB7w== Original-Received: from coldharbour.local ( [147.235.217.68]) by dsemy.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 5bf823c5 (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256:NO); Fri, 29 Dec 2023 09:02:36 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (coldharbour.local [local]) by coldharbour.local (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id 4c14f5c4; Fri, 29 Dec 2023 07:57:03 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Thu, 28 Dec 2023 22:53:54 -0500") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=46.23.89.208; envelope-from=daniel@dsemy.com; helo=dsemy.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314317 Archived-At: >>>>> Richard Stallman writes: >> I think the intention is to "vendor" miniaudio.h with your >> program (not sure if I'm using the term correctly), > Can you please state what you mean in different words? "Vendonr" > is a noun, not a verb, and that noun is usually meaningless in the > context of free software. As a result, I can't imagine what a > verb "to vendor" would mean. Sure, what I meant was to include the file "miniaudio.h" as part of the package. "miniaudio.h" is not a usual C header file, it actually contains all the code of the miniaudio library, so in effect this will make the package mostly 3rd party code (which is why I assume this isn't acceptable). However, since only a few distributions package miniaudio, this seems like it would be the most convenient option for users. I don't know why miniaudio is distributed this way, I'm assuming there is some benefit to this method that I don't understand because I don't have much experience with C programming.