filling more narrowly --- or unfilling -- for export to email, upon ascii export

filling more narrowly --- or unfilling -- for export to email, upon ascii export

[Samuel Wales]

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i get pretty confused about this.  i often write things in org, with my own
fill column, and m-q.  and various half-broken tricks to try to fill/unfill.

then i want to send email, preferably via ascii export.  i do not know
whehter i should try to fill to a shorter column [in org i use 60 normally]
because the recipient might have a smaller window for reading the mail, or
unfill everything.

unfilled paragraphs seems to be the norm in email these days for
nontechnical folk.  but org has plain lists and things, which need
org-style unfilling.

i do not know how to accurately unfill everything or if it's a good idea.

can this be optionally done at ascii export time?  unfilling everything or
filling to a narrower column?  for sending via email.


separately... PERHAPS?... i should figure out how to not fill any of my
paragraphs....  but htat is a big step.  with visual stuff.



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Re: filling more narrowly --- or unfilling -- for export to email, upon ascii export

[Fraga, Eric]

Hi Samuel,

On Wednesday, 22 May 2024 at 00:53, Samuel Wales wrote:
> unfilled paragraphs seems to be the norm in email these days for
> nontechnical folk.  but org has plain lists and things, which need
> org-style unfilling.

Given the profusion of potential devices for reading email and their
differing sizes, I have found that unfilled paragraphs are best in
general although I do fill for posts to mailing lists like this one and
newsgroups as that is the convention (arguably).

However, if there is formatting that you wish to preserve (lists,
equations [which often is the case for my emails to my research group,
say]), the only real option (as much as I dislike it) is to use HTML.  I
write my email using org syntax and then invoke

  M-x org-mime-htmlize RET

just before sending.

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Re: filling more narrowly --- or unfilling -- for export to email, upon ascii export

[Ihor Radchenko]

Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:

> then i want to send email, preferably via ascii export.  i do not know
> whehter i should try to fill to a shorter column [in org i use 60 normally]
> because the recipient might have a smaller window for reading the mail, or
> unfill everything.
>
> unfilled paragraphs seems to be the norm in email these days for
> nontechnical folk.  but org has plain lists and things, which need
> org-style unfilling.
>
> i do not know how to accurately unfill everything or if it's a good idea.
>
> can this be optionally done at ascii export time?  unfilling everything or
> filling to a narrower column?  for sending via email.

See `org-ascii-text-width'. You can set it to a large value.

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filling more narrowly --- or unfilling -- for export to email, upon ascii export

[Samuel Wales]

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thanks both.

> I write my email using org syntax and then invoke
>
> M-x org-mime-htmlize RET
>
> just before sending.

i'm guessing that would solve all formatting issues.  not sure how quoting
[top post or interstitial] conversations would work.

however, last time i tried sending html through webmail, i couldn't gt it
to send as html, as opposed to html as text.  perthaps there is a trick to
it.


as for ihor's suggestion, i tried (setq org-ascii-text-width
most-positive-fixnum) and then realized that it would likely wrap plain
lists thus:

  - this is a list with a really long line which is like an unfilled
paragraph and here it is filling but not to the fill-prefix org fills it to


i'm guessing there is maybe no solution.  [i have had bad luck with geary
and thunderbird, and unfortunately setting up emacs mail is at this time is
too much for me [and not as accessible for me as webmail for various
reasons [including but not limited to full mouseability]].]

the workaround might be to set a really narrow fill column, i wonder?  not
sure.



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Re: filling more narrowly --- or unfilling -- for export to email, upon ascii export

[Samuel Wales]

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for now i am doing   (setq org-ascii-text-width 40).  idk if recipient
devices are smaller, but it doesn't seem too bad if they are not.

On Thursday, May 23, 2024, Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> wrote:

> thanks both.
>
> > I write my email using org syntax and then invoke
> >
> > M-x org-mime-htmlize RET
> >
> > just before sending.
>
> i'm guessing that would solve all formatting issues.  not sure how quoting
> [top post or interstitial] conversations would work.
>
> however, last time i tried sending html through webmail, i couldn't gt it
> to send as html, as opposed to html as text.  perthaps there is a trick to
> it.
>
>
> as for ihor's suggestion, i tried (setq org-ascii-text-width
> most-positive-fixnum) and then realized that it would likely wrap plain
> lists thus:
>
>   - this is a list with a really long line which is like an unfilled
> paragraph and here it is filling but not to the fill-prefix org fills it to
>
>
> i'm guessing there is maybe no solution.  [i have had bad luck with geary
> and thunderbird, and unfortunately setting up emacs mail is at this time is
> too much for me [and not as accessible for me as webmail for various
> reasons [including but not limited to full mouseability]].]
>
> the workaround might be to set a really narrow fill column, i wonder?  not
> sure.
>
>
>
> --
> The Kafka Pandemic
>
> A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy:
> https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com
>
>

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