From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestion: Ace-window in Emacs core for switching windows? Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2024 00:18:44 +0000 Message-ID: <87bk3jwae3.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87y16s1z61.fsf@jeremybryant.net> <868qyq67hr.fsf@gnu.org> <87ikxrflie.fsf@jeremybryant.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="32680"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , ohwoeowho@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jeremy Bryant Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 30 02:19:42 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sNiIA-0008JM-JK for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 30 Jun 2024 02:19:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sNiHO-0007dn-2F; Sat, 29 Jun 2024 20:18:54 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sNiHM-0007dd-KA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jun 2024 20:18:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mout02.posteo.de ([185.67.36.66]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sNiHK-0001jm-MN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Jun 2024 20:18:52 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout02.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0DF22240101 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2024 02:18:45 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1719706726; bh=66/AW+WnW9Kwi61EwDYfEOswebEvyq6U4l6SzDbXdd8=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:OpenPGP:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type:From; b=fksKPbK0kj0mvAuf0ZQhV4jqbzwKpba4rccBxybibbhHRin3IqKTB74txcsh1mAAI tJrLmTi5ymnUxie/7wXx4WEokZ2r+8tL5OOzZEbFgH0DmPwteaxefn5kxcsopC7awq jTcmbIlpz72m9ZpMQwj1YLqD5ODD24Nr6VS6Ws16O0MB8p11q3OUK9Dxigx/uSWRYh Gc/H/TPfedaciXC4YPWKn5OOzaVb5IJdGfvflWhQmtgt0n8OSC2VLRio7w0KZZt/lJ 3deifDfhDYRLxSPX7XdVgSQ0gFB+FdpDABiiqS7K+BdoU92WC/1TCjWJw99KyvxoRB JbO4T3J2ia/OQ== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4WBVC92xZ0z6txP; Sun, 30 Jun 2024 02:18:45 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87ikxrflie.fsf@jeremybryant.net> (Jeremy Bryant's message of "Sat, 29 Jun 2024 23:10:33 +0100") OpenPGP: id=7126E1DE2F0CE35C770BED01F2C3CC513DB89F66; url="https://keys.openpgp.org/vks/v1/by-fingerprint/7126E1DE2F0CE35C770BED01F2C3CC513DB89F66"; preference=signencrypt Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.66; envelope-from=philipk@posteo.net; helo=mout02.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320896 Archived-At: Jeremy Bryant writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >>> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2024 22:37:58 +0100 >>> From: Jeremy Bryant via "Emacs development discussions." >>> >>> >>> Ace-window is a quick way to switch windows, optionally using the home >>> key row. >>> >>> It has a high rating of 89% in ELPA >>> https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/ >>> >>> I have found it useful and also stable - It doesn't appear to undergo >>> major changes or need much ongoing maintenance. >>> >>> Could it be a candidate for absorption into Emacs core? >> >> It could be, but why is it a problem to leave it on ELPA? > > There are deployment scenarios where users can only use the Emacs > provided in the distro, with no internet access for policy or security reasons. > In particular, that means only built-in packages, without access to the internet. > > As I personally use ace-window, I found it lacking in that scenario. Given that we already have windmove, would the addition of ace-window really change that much? -- Philip Kaludercic on peregrine