From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thanos Apollo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Writting Greek in Emacs Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2024 22:02:18 +0300 Message-ID: <87bk0jbh6t.fsf@thanosapollo.org> References: <87frpvk8l9.fsf@thanosapollo.org> <86ikur8vku.fsf@gnu.org> <878qvnk3j4.fsf@thanosapollo.org> <86ed5f8ugc.fsf@gnu.org> <875xqrk20g.fsf@thanosapollo.org> <86a5g38qkk.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22431"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 19 21:03:19 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1srMQx-0005eI-23 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 19 Sep 2024 21:03:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srMQ9-0000u9-HD; Thu, 19 Sep 2024 15:02:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srMQ3-0000iq-Hs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Sep 2024 15:02:23 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp.forwardemail.net ([149.28.215.223]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1srMQ1-0001sh-R8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 19 Sep 2024 15:02:23 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=thanosapollo.org; h=Content-Type: MIME-Version: Message-ID: Date: References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Cc: To: From; q=dns/txt; s=fe-4dbabb00f3; t=1726772539; bh=wtYzHTnVg9g+yzCOhnTROo65oZvMtO1LPHVsqf4puNc=; b=c6WBuodARqwIMraho/AEiBbMtIXZtZPETr4kXnV7dqz2hkTVs7oAzjUYUQImAVrcopm11ai7I qpoTYttLXoinS6d/4410/Ws5bp1De+rK8Hf03z7N54vILrOf8o8u+27CEvt36Cd9Oq3TCEffAus E/nFVVW1gxw6gXLSqLUVHCA= In-Reply-To: <86a5g38qkk.fsf@gnu.org> X-Report-Abuse-To: abuse@forwardemail.net X-Report-Abuse: abuse@forwardemail.net Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@forwardemail.net X-ForwardEmail-Version: 0.4.40 X-ForwardEmail-Sender: rfc822; public@thanosapollo.org, smtp.forwardemail.net, 149.28.215.223 X-ForwardEmail-ID: 66ec7528ebe13e1001967522 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=149.28.215.223; envelope-from=SRS0=32db=QS=thanosapollo.org=public@fe-bounces.thanosapollo.org; helo=smtp.forwardemail.net X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPBL_BLOCKED=0.001, RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_SAFE_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323794 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eli Zaretskii writes: >>=20 >> =CE=AD=CC=81=CC=81=CC=81=CC=81=CC=81=CC=81=CC=81=CC=81=CC=81=CC=81=CC=81= =CC=81=CC=81=CC=81=CC=81=CC=81=CC=81=CC=81=CC=81=CC=81=CC=81=CC=81 > > Which problems do you see here? It's not possible to stack accents of the same type in Greek. There are many grammatical rules that are ignored in most input methods that I've checkout out, such as using specific accents in non vowels. There are specific rules that should be followed on which accents are used. Depending on the structure of the word & sentence, e.g a greek input method should not allow to have a "tonos (=CE=84)" in a non-vowel. Also, some input methods have include sampi instead of "!" which is not really used in Greek since the 5th century BC (and even then it was not common). A greek-polytonic input method should follow the keybindings that are already used in greek polytonic keyboards & only allow certain accents depending on the character. A simple guide on polytonic can be found here[1] for anyone interested. 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