From: Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: mickey@masteringemacs.org, casouri@gmail.com, theo@thornhill.no,
73404@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca
Subject: bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes
Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2025 20:02:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bjwjyg5f.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86cyh16nq3.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 05 Jan 2025 21:54:12 +0200")
> Another example on line 152 in dispnew.c:
>
> struct redisplay_history
> {
> char trace[512 + 100];
> };
>
> Move point to the [ before 512: C-M-n will signal an error.
>
> Any bracket in the file will trigger either the first or the second
> behavior.
Sorry, I didn't foresee that you would expect C-M-n and C-M-f to behave
the same way regarding list motion. This is fixed now by syncing
treesit-forward-list with treesit-forward-sexp-list, so all your
test cases work correctly now.
>> > w32_get_internal_run_time (void)
>> > {
>> > if (get_process_times_fn)
>> > {
>> > FILETIME create, exit, kernel, user;
>> > HANDLE proc = GetCurrentProcess ();
>> > if ((*get_process_times_fn) (proc, &create, &exit, &kernel, &user))
>> > {
>> > return ltime (total.QuadPart);
>> > } ^
>> > }
>> >
>> > return Fcurrent_time ();
>> > }
>> >
>> > If you put point on the semi-colon marked by "^", C-M-n signals an
>> > error. Can't we instead move to the next "list" after
>> > "Fcurrent_time"?
>>
>> 'C-M-n' doesn't move to the next statement in c-mode,
>> since we need to support backward-compatibility. The key
>> that moves to the next statement ignoring nested lists
>> in C modes is 'M-e'.
>
> Well, then maybe we could have the more useful behavior as an opt-in
> option?
Do you also need an option to move in Lisp from 1 to 2 in:
(compound_statement
(if_statement
(compound_statement
(return_statement 1)))
(return_statement 2))
>> C-M-n is unable to move to the first group because
>> it's inside the node in the AST:
>>
>> (cast_expression "("
>> type: (type_descriptor type: (type_identifier))
>> ")"
>> value:
>> (call_expression function: (identifier)
>> arguments:
>> (argument_list "(" (identifier) ,
>> (string_literal " (string_content) ")
>> ")")))
>>
>> Both the first and the 2nd parenthesized groups are inside the
>> "cast_expression" node.
>
> Sorry, I don't follow: the parentheses of the argument list are also
> inside a node, and yet we do recognize them. What's the difference?
The problem is that ")" is not the final child of 'cast_expression'.
So C-M-f/C-M-n can't stop after ")".
All these problems stem from the imperfection of ts grammars.
It would be nice if someone will find a way to modify the grammars
after importing them to Emacs core, to be able to insert more nodes.
This will solve a whole class of problems.
Otherwise, if vendoring grammars is not feasible, an alternative
would be to define a new treesit-thing like e.g. "paren" that
will match anonymous nodes like:
(setq-local treesit-thing-settings
`((c
(paren ,(rx (or "{" "}" "[" "]" "(" ")")))
Then low-level treesit functions such as treesit-parent-until
will have to check if there a preceding sibling that matches "paren"
before using their real AST parent node. This means maintaining
a parallel virtual tree.
>> > As for terminology: the Emacs user manual calls these "groupings
>> > delimited by parentheses (or whatever else serves as delimiters in the
>> > language you are working with)", or in short "parenthetical group".
>> > Why cannot we keep this terminology? It sounds like it describes its
>> > subject as accurate as we can come up with.
>>
>> So you prefer "group" over "list"?
>
> As a shorthand; the better term is "parenthesized group".
By definition a list is a parenthesized group.
The term "list" is much shorter than its synonym
"parenthesized group", so I see no reasons not to use "list".
>> Then 'forward-list' should move over "group"?
>
> I'm not sure we should rename the commands, given the legacy. But
> the doc string should use "group" or "parenthesized group", IMO.
The doc string of 'forward-list' already uses this:
(forward-list &optional ARG INTERACTIVE)
Move forward across one balanced group of parentheses.
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2024-09-21 5:06 bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 7:42 ` Yuan Fu
2024-09-26 9:56 ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 10:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-26 12:13 ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 13:46 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-26 15:21 ` Mickey Petersen
2024-09-26 15:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-27 5:43 ` Yuan Fu
2024-09-29 16:56 ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-01 3:57 ` Yuan Fu
2024-10-01 17:49 ` Juri Linkov
2024-10-02 6:14 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-05 18:52 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-05 19:53 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-10 17:20 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-11 6:31 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-11 15:12 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-11 15:29 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-11 16:50 ` Mickey Petersen
2024-12-11 18:27 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-12 7:17 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 7:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-12 7:58 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 8:14 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 16:31 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 17:49 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-12 19:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-13 7:06 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-14 11:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-14 18:14 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-18 7:37 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19 4:04 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-19 7:14 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19 7:18 ` bug#74963: Ambiguous treesit named and anonymous nodes in ruby-ts-mode Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 3:02 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-24 7:17 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 7:41 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 3:25 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-25 7:52 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-26 1:00 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-12-27 7:42 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 17:52 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 21:03 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 7:49 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 9:11 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 17:39 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-19 7:34 ` bug#73404: 30.0.50; [forward/kill/etc]-sexp commands do not behave as expected in tree-sitter modes Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 19:05 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-24 21:14 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 7:44 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 8:34 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-25 17:36 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-27 7:59 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 17:19 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-25 18:01 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-25 19:29 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-27 7:54 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-29 17:58 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-30 7:15 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-30 8:00 ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-04 17:46 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-04 19:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-05 7:32 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-05 11:46 ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 12:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-05 12:30 ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 16:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-05 18:20 ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 21:18 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 17:59 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-05 19:50 ` Theodor Thornhill via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-06 7:54 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-06 14:14 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-06 17:40 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-06 18:04 ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-06 20:07 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-07 18:05 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-07 19:19 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 13:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-05 18:05 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-05 19:54 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-06 18:02 ` Juri Linkov [this message]
2025-01-06 18:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2025-01-06 20:19 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 7:37 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-05 14:40 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-05 18:10 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-06 8:56 ` Yuan Fu
2025-01-07 17:56 ` Juri Linkov
2025-01-07 19:25 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2025-01-08 2:27 ` Yuan Fu
2024-12-30 13:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 18:54 ` Juri Linkov
2024-12-30 19:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-12-30 16:30 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-12-30 18:59 ` Juri Linkov
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