From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: tumme testing Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 03:22:23 +0200 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87accya7ds.fsf@jurta.org> References: <17366.53124.274532.548329@kahikatea.snap.net.nz> <87slqvfobk.fsf@jurta.org> <87d5hy43b6.fsf@jurta.org> <87u0b8lwhw.fsf@jurta.org> <87bqxgynfn.fsf@jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1139630587 2942 80.91.229.2 (11 Feb 2006 04:03:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 04:03:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bob@rattlesnake.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 11 05:03:06 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7lyO-0006mF-Qp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 05:03:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7lyO-0002fG-5S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:03:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F7lve-0001l7-ON for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:00:10 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1F7lvc-0001jV-6J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:00:09 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1F7lvb-0001jB-LJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:00:07 -0500 Original-Received: from [194.126.101.111] (helo=mail.neti.ee) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1F7lzW-0000WD-1c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:04:10 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.neti.ee (80-235-40-212-dsl.mus.estpak.ee [80.235.40.212]) by Relayhost2.neti.ee (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECEBC7F41; Sat, 11 Feb 2006 05:59:56 +0200 (EET) Original-To: Mattis In-Reply-To: (Mattis's message of "Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:26:12 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-2.2.1 (20041222) (Debian) at neti.ee X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:50358 Archived-At: >> 5. No data provided easily >> >> The new buffer did not display the images with the data provided >> by dired. In particular, it did not display images with names, >> sizes, and dates. (You can click on an image to obtain its name >> -- I don't know how to do this while keeping my hands on the >> keyboard -- but compared to other thumbnail programs, that >> clicking does not provide much efficiency when you are looking at >> many images; for one, you must remember which visual image goes >> with which size.) This is the main drawback of tumme.el now (thumbs.el is not better). I hope this will be improved ASAP. > Correct. That's not implemented yet. Partly because I have dired in > another window, and I am using the "track movement" thing so that I > can see, in dired, which file point is on in the thumbnail buffer. It > would probably be quite easy to add that info to the thumbnail buffer, > but it would require a rewrite of the code that places the thumbnail > files there, and exactly how it should look must be investigated. It > is harder in Emacs to center texts under images and so on. This should be quite easy. You could try the function `image-size' which returns the size of the image in characters. >> Comment: >> >> Back on 5 February using iimage.el, Juri Linkov showed what can be >> done to make an Emacs thumbnail packages more useful. > > Yes, I saw that too. I'll keep it in mind for future additions > of functionality. If not with iimage.el, then at least with `put-image'. Though `put-image' currently has one drawback: its created overlays don't evaporate when relocated to the beginning of the buffer, because `put-image' doesn't put the property `evaporate' to its overlays. But adding `evaporate' is not possible because then the overlay evaporates immediately after its creation, since its length is 0 initially, due to (make-overlay pos pos buffer), where `pos pos' creates the 0-length overlay. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/