From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: cursor doesn't show through transparent images in emacs 22, unlike emacs 21 Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:42:33 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87ac5px6cy.fsf@jurta.org> References: <2cd46e7f0608181622w23c7d2b0h9b963deeadfd1c06@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0608191849g521593acm1f9dbc355315ffd6@mail.gmail.com> <2cd46e7f0608200810ge8885f7l7ffc88fd30a8a3eb@mail.gmail.com> <85zmdx2o5n.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <2cd46e7f0608220645i4c9677d3mf778b3ded10dba07@mail.gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1156711391 23233 80.91.229.2 (27 Aug 2006 20:43:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 20:43:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ken.manheimer@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, storm@cua.dk Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 27 22:43:08 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GHRTA-0003Ne-CU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:43:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GHRT9-0007sx-Sy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:42:59 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GHRSy-0007sN-2b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:42:48 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1GHRSv-0007sB-Kg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:42:46 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GHRSv-0007s4-E5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:42:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [62.64.120.197] (helo=relay02.kiev.sovam.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA:32) (Exim 4.52) id 1GHRbg-0006We-Pe; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 16:51:49 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay02.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1GHRSp-0000CZ-SP; Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:42:40 +0300 Original-To: rms@gnu.org In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Sun, 27 Aug 2006 10:34:57 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanner-Signature: 367251710ae6d8069d2a2bb66b314d03 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 227 [August 24 2006] X-SpamTest-Info: {received from trusted relay: not dialup} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Method: Local Lists X-SpamTest-Rate: 0 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0242], KAS30/Release X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:58950 Archived-At: > > I think this means that if the image blocks out the background color, > > then the cursor won't appear. Is that correct? I think that is a problem. > > Maybe -- but it's not a new problem. It's the same as it was in 21.x, and > I don't recall any reports of that behaviour being a problem. > > How could it possibly not be a problem? Is it that nobody uses > non-transparent images? Nobody cares about seeing the cursor in buffers > that use non-transparent images? I guess this is not a problem because usually a border is visible around non-transparent images with the cursor. What a real problem is that displaying different types of cursors on small transparent images is illogical now. This is a serious UI problem. Currently, the box cursor is displayed as a hollow cursor on images, but the bar cursor is displayed as a filled box cursor. But this should be vice versa: the box cursor should be displayed as a box cursor that fills transparent areas and has the 1-pixel border, but the bar cursor should be displayed as a hollow cursor. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/