From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Usability suggestion : completion for M-: Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:12:07 +0300 Organization: JURTA Message-ID: <87abk1e9qw.fsf@jurta.org> References: <87d4oy7oar.fsf@gmail.com> <003901c89a87$8f7cea90$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207869441 28876 80.91.229.12 (10 Apr 2008 23:17:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:17:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 'Paul R' , 'emacs- devel' To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 11 01:17:53 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jk61f-00051X-4q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:17:51 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jk611-0006Zq-Br for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:17:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jk60B-0005e3-7u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:16:19 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jk609-0005c4-E3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:16:18 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jk609-0005bw-Ar for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:16:17 -0400 Original-Received: from relay01.kiev.sovam.com ([62.64.120.200]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jk609-0002EM-3X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:16:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [83.170.232.243] (helo=smtp.svitonline.com) by relay01.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Jk605-000KJF-Em; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:16:14 +0300 In-Reply-To: <003901c89a87$8f7cea90$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:20:39 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-Scanner-Signature: 5389b9e13478507b5d7b23e4ed053241 X-DrWeb-checked: yes X-SpamTest-Envelope-From: juri@jurta.org X-SpamTest-Group-ID: 00000000 X-SpamTest-Header: Not Detected X-SpamTest-Info: Profiles 2606 [Apr 10 2008] X-SpamTest-Info: helo_type=3 X-SpamTest-Info: {HEADERS: header Content-Type found without required header Content-Transfer-Encoding} X-SpamTest-Method: none X-SpamTest-Rate: 10 X-SpamTest-Status: Not detected X-SpamTest-Status-Extended: not_detected X-SpamTest-Version: SMTP-Filter Version 3.0.0 [0278], KAS30/Release X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.8-5.1 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:94913 Archived-At: >> * Drew believe that the whole M-: should evolve to something more >> like a interactive scratch in the context of current buffer, and >> that if TAB does not complete in scratch, it should not complete in >> M-: > > To be specific, I said this: > >> I would prefer to see M-: take on more of the >> character of a pop-up emacs-lisp-mode buffer: >> TAB, C-M-q, C-j,..., but with RET still causing >> eval... And I'd like to see M-: pretty-print the >> result (as in pp-eval-expression) I think it would make sense to change M-: to use the same behavior as M-! has, i.e. when the number of lines of the result is more than some threshold then pop-up a buffer in another window with the result. -- Juri Linkov http://www.jurta.org/emacs/