From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Lost antialias? Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:01:42 -0400 Message-ID: <87abhkndo9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <485230EB.9070203@alice.it> <48546807.8010406@alice.it> <87abhmgmko.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213726019 27604 80.91.229.12 (17 Jun 2008 18:06:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 18:06:59 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, angelo.graziosi@alice.it To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 17 20:07:43 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K8fai-0006oU-1F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:07:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52692 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K8fZt-0000Sj-OL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:06:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K8fZV-0000BN-6K for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:06:21 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K8fZT-00009o-GL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:06:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=59178 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K8fZT-00009b-7R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:06:19 -0400 Original-Received: from cyd.mit.edu ([18.115.2.24]:55711) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K8fZS-0001dn-Qz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:06:18 -0400 Original-Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2C3C34E47D; Tue, 17 Jun 2008 14:01:42 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Kenichi Handa's message of "Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:55:32 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99363 Archived-At: Kenichi Handa writes: > In article <87abhmgmko.fsf@stupidchicken.com>, Chong Yidong writes: > >> Is there any reason to have x,xft by default, instead of xft,x? > > Backward compatibility. Will re-ordering the font backends fix the other problem we discussed, which is that the `fixed-pitch' and `variable-pitch' faces are non-fontconfig fonts? We need to solve this problem, because it looks bad if Emacs acquires Fontconfig font support but the startup screen doesn't use those fonts. Re-ordering the font-backends in .emacs does not solve the problem. Should we simply abolish the use of `fixed-pitch' and `variable-pitch'?