From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Lost antialias? Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:34:05 +0900 Message-ID: <87abhf1mxe.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <485230EB.9070203@alice.it> <48546807.8010406@alice.it> <87abhmgmko.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87abhkndo9.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87skv7d6sa.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87lk0z1w3e.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87ej6rpqh0.fsf@stupidchicken.com> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1214019269 9977 80.91.229.12 (21 Jun 2008 03:34:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2008 03:34:29 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org, angelo.graziosi@alice.it, Kenichi Handa To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 21 05:35:13 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K9tsf-0002sP-3N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 05:35:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51727 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K9trq-0000o7-4E for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:34:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K9trl-0000nT-Ab for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:34:17 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1K9trj-0000m7-El for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:34:16 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60987 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1K9trj-0000lr-83 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:34:15 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp12.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.74]:40114) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K9trg-00063g-5Q; Fri, 20 Jun 2008 23:34:12 -0400 Original-Received: from 218.231.109.31.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([218.231.109.31] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp12.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1K9trc-0001jp-1I; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:34:08 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6BB712F3D; Sat, 21 Jun 2008 12:34:05 +0900 (JST) System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Fri, 20 Jun 2008 22:12:41 -0400") Original-Lines: 23 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:99578 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> What font should we use for variable-pitch? Bitstream Vera Sans? > > I'd put "Sans-Serif" first, so as to re-use fontconfig's default. > Similarly for fixed-pitch (not sure if that's "mono" or "monospace" or > what). Fontconfig's generic handling seems aimed more at finding something "usable" rather than something "good", and the ordering seems almost random (Bitstream Vera comes before Dejavu, even though the latter is more or less a better version of the former, and on my system "Sans Serif" resolves to "Kochi Gothic", apparently simply because I have that installed). So I think using generic names as the first choice would often give suboptimal results. -Miles -- Generous, adj. Originally this word meant noble by birth and was rightly applied to a great multitude of persons. It now means noble by nature and is taking a bit of a rest.