From: Phil Carmody <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: basic question: going back to dired
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:50:29 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87abgaw322.fsf@nonospaz.fatphil.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.15156.1216725748.18990.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
"Juanma Barranquero" <lekktu@gmail.com> writes:
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:46, Phil Carmody
> <thefatphil_demunged@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Xah <xahlee@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>> These terms are irrelevant to the users of a software application.
>>
>> Blatant assertion I disagree with completely.
>
> In which way the use of terms like "keybinding" or "buffer" is
> relevant to the *users* of a software application?
I, as a user of the software application called "emacs"
must be familiar with that functions are bound to what
keys in order to use that software application.
For buffers, see below.
I'd have thought the above response would have been so bloody
obvious that I'm amazed you even bothered asking the question.
The only way I can see you not expecting such a response is
if you are of the opinion that I am not a user of emacs, or
that you think emacs is not a software application. Either of
which is equally bizarre.
>>> As a user of a text editor, he works with files.
>>
>> Blatant assertion I disagree with completely. As a user of a text
>> editor, I work with text. And I want it neatly buffered for me.
>> I may occasionally load some of the text from a file, and I may
>> occasionally save some of the text to a file, but the majority
>> of the buffers that I use never undergo either.
>
> It is true that the user of a text editor works with text. It is also
> true, I think, that most text is saved to a file, though nowadays I
> suppose there's also a fair amount that is cut&paste'd into another
> application, a web form, etc.
An absolute assertion is false as soon as one counter-example
is found. An absolute assertion was made. I provided a counter-
example. The assertion is therefore false. End of.
Phil
--
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2008-07-21 18:59 basic question: going back to dired Ben Aurel
2008-07-21 23:21 ` Bastien
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2008-07-22 6:04 ` Xah
2008-07-22 8:26 ` Bastien Guerry
2008-07-22 11:29 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-22 16:53 ` Bastien Guerry
2008-07-22 22:58 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-22 23:32 ` Bastien Guerry
2008-07-22 23:38 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-22 23:56 ` Bastien Guerry
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2008-07-24 7:46 ` Miles Bader
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2008-07-22 16:13 ` Evans Winner
2008-07-22 22:49 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-23 9:46 ` Tim X
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2008-07-24 7:39 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-24 9:04 ` Juanma Barranquero
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2008-07-24 10:38 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-24 12:36 ` Tim X
2008-07-24 14:38 ` Juanma Barranquero
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2008-07-26 4:38 ` Tim X
2008-07-26 6:18 ` William Case
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2008-07-26 8:58 ` Tim X
2008-07-22 9:46 ` Phil Carmody
2008-07-22 11:22 ` Juanma Barranquero
[not found] ` <op.ueoy5npciz1hxh@el-juanek>
2008-07-22 12:14 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-22 13:56 ` Dan Davison
2008-07-22 15:07 ` Juanma Barranquero
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2008-07-22 15:03 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-22 17:14 ` Bastien Guerry
2008-07-24 1:38 ` Juanma
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2008-07-24 9:28 ` Nikolaj Schumacher
2008-07-24 9:41 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24 21:43 ` Juanma
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2008-07-24 22:34 ` Juanma
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2008-07-24 23:07 ` Juanma
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2008-07-24 12:30 ` Tim X
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2008-07-26 2:23 ` Tim X
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2008-07-31 9:21 ` Juanma Barranquero
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2008-07-22 15:25 ` Phil Carmody
2008-07-24 7:19 ` Miles Bader
2008-07-24 9:02 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-24 11:12 ` Nikolaj Schumacher
2008-07-24 12:32 ` Tim X
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2008-07-24 15:19 ` xraysmalevich
2008-07-24 15:43 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-24 16:03 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-25 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-07-26 4:33 ` Tim X
2008-07-31 9:27 ` Juanma Barranquero
2008-07-31 11:22 ` Juan Manuel Menéndez Bellón
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2008-07-31 13:59 ` Tim X
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2008-07-31 14:56 ` Thierry Volpiatto
2008-07-31 15:03 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-31 15:12 ` Thierry Volpiatto
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2008-08-04 10:48 ` Sacha Chua
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2008-07-24 17:59 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
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2008-07-22 12:34 ` Miles Bader
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2008-07-22 13:47 ` Nikolaj Schumacher
2008-07-22 14:03 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-07-23 1:29 ` Kevin Rodgers
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2008-07-22 14:50 ` xraysmalevich
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