From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tyler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs, oldsters, newbiness Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:08:12 -0400 Message-ID: <87abccjvvn.fsf@blackbart.sedgenet> References: <251d6b72-b760-411b-8c35-83a7788e2491@u75g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <7343b66f-7262-466c-8975-9774dce22d88@y21g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <7bddb878-9f4c-4140-827c-83cd29c96e5f@l77g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <372adbcc-d97b-453c-8ddc-3a7f1abb0b23@l62g2000hse.googlegroups.com> <87tzb26y7p.fsf@gmail.com> <87hc6z6nmp.fsf@gmail.com> <200810302325.m9UNP7JI012589@zogzog.maillard.mobi> <86abcfrydf.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87iqr1qnni.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1226017146 8588 80.91.229.12 (7 Nov 2008 00:19:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2008 00:19:06 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 07 01:20:09 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KyF57-0000cw-5g for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:20:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33409 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KyF3z-0008Ev-Kg for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:18:59 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KyF3c-0008DT-Rh for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:18:36 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KyF3b-0008CB-Dl for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:18:36 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=37592 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KyF3b-0008Bv-2S for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:18:35 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:41645 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KyDxd-00067w-Av for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:08:21 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KyDxV-0002nd-EA for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:08:13 +0000 Original-Received: from 140.184.131.32 ([140.184.131.32]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:08:13 +0000 Original-Received: from tyler.smith by 140.184.131.32 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:08:13 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.184.131.32 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:w9ZDjp37qEIKdddvDkDI2hrhx98= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-Spam-Report: 6.3 points; * 0.0 RCVD_BY_IP Received by mail server with no name * -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record * -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record * 4.0 RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO Received: contains an IP address used for HELO * 2.3 LONGWORDS Long string of long words Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:59536 Archived-At: Reiner Steib writes: > > As we don't have copyright assignments for the content on EmacsWiki, > we cannot do this. Does EmacsWiki have a reliable history mechanism > that allows to find out who has done a change? > The wiki is licensed under GPL 2, according to the footer on each page. This being the case, what's to stop anyone from lifting content for inclusion in other documents with compatible licenses? If such activity actually requires individual contributors actively assigning copyright, then the footer is wrong and needs to be corrected. Personally, I have always assumed that material I provide on any wiki is subject to a Free license. Wikipedia is GFDL, and they've never requested a copyright assignment from me. If that's not the case for the EmacsWiki it should be stated clearly somewhere. Cheers, Tyler --