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From: Florian Beck <abstraktion@t-online.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Xah Lee <xah@xahlee.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Fiddling with the menus (was: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!)
Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2009 14:37:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ab2988p7.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv3a817kui.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 08 Aug 2009 23:36:04 -0400")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> • Emacs's Menu Usability Problem
>>  http://xahlee.org/emacs/modernization_menu.html
>
> Some of them sound like good ideas.  Here's my take on it:

While I don't necessarily agree that emacs' popularity is held back by
to complicated menus, by all means do this.

However, menus are *also* used to explore features. So I would recommend
adding *more* commands to the menu at second or even third level (which
at the moment is shunned, because it's tedious for work, but it's great
for exploring features).

- How about introducing an easy way to add commands to the menu (maybe
  via key binding in the minibuffer)?
- How about an extra menu »New in Emacs 23«?
- How about making the toolbar useful by allowing the user to move menu
  items onto it?

-- 
Florian Beck




  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-08-09 12:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-05  3:22 bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23! xah lee
2009-08-06  2:15 ` Richard Stallman
2009-08-08 16:11   ` Xah Lee
2009-08-09  3:36     ` Fiddling with the menus (was: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!) Stefan Monnier
2009-08-09  3:53       ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09  5:13         ` Fiddling with the menus (was: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs Stefan Monnier
2009-08-09 17:20         ` Fiddling with the menus (was: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!) Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 17:56           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 18:02             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:10               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 18:15                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:21                   ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 18:51                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:54                       ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 18:57                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:55                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 19:07                   ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 20:36                     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 23:00                       ` Fiddling with the menus Jason Rumney
2009-08-09 23:14                         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 23:46                           ` Jason Rumney
2009-08-10  1:51                       ` Fiddling with the menus (was: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!) Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-10  3:03                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-10  3:26                         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10  2:27               ` Fiddling with the menus Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10  2:32                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09  5:05       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-09  9:51         ` CHENG Gao
2009-08-09 17:38           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:06             ` CHENG Gao
2009-08-09 18:17               ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:24                 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 18:54                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:59                     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 22:54                     ` Jason Rumney
2009-08-10  1:12               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-09 17:50         ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 23:14           ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-10  2:32             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10  3:07             ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-11  5:06         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-11 13:03           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 12:37       ` Florian Beck [this message]
2009-08-09 17:52         ` Fiddling with the menus (was: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!) Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 17:26       ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 18:05         ` Fiddling with the menus Richard Riley
2009-08-09 18:14           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-10  2:09         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10  3:16           ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-08-09 23:09       ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-09 23:29         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10  0:10           ` Drew Adams
2009-08-10  2:22           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-09 20:29     ` bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23! Richard Stallman
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-08-10  2:34 Fiddling with the menus (was: bug#4043: 23.1; thanks for emacs 23!) Xah Lee

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