From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Switching to bzr: what Emacs developers should know? Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:49:10 -0400 Message-ID: <87ab26aoix.fsf@canonical.com> References: <874osi6zpe.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <28c656e20908081151h55a4b566v4cfc7c49c5ca2a37@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: Karl Fogel NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1249969773 2529 80.91.229.12 (11 Aug 2009 05:49:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 05:49:33 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Bastien , B Smith-Mannschott , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 11 07:49:26 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MakEf-0003oa-3j for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 07:49:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34553 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MakEd-0007xR-Ju for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:49:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MakEW-0007x2-3H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:49:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MakEU-0007wn-Jc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:49:14 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57118 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MakEU-0007wi-DW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:49:14 -0400 Original-Received: from adelie.canonical.com ([91.189.90.139]:53252) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MakET-0007FM-VY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 01:49:14 -0400 Original-Received: from hutte.canonical.com ([91.189.90.181]) by adelie.canonical.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69 #1 (Debian)) id 1MakET-0006gq-Er; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:49:13 +0100 Original-Received: from cpe-72-225-235-182.nyc.res.rr.com ([72.225.235.182] helo=kfogel-work) by hutte.canonical.com with esmtpsa (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MakET-0004EM-7M; Tue, 11 Aug 2009 06:49:13 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sat, 08 Aug 2009 15:54:00 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:114037 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > Actually, for Gnus it seems not particularly easy, because two-way > merges like those Miles currently does don't seem to fit into the Bazaar > model nicely at all and because merging two separate package histories > into one seems to fit even worse. Well, I should get a better understanding of how Gnus is developed, before trying to write that section of the wiki. (Maybe my claim about how it fits the Bzr model well is wrong...) Is Gnus just in a separate CVS repository right now, and all the changes get copied over in some primitive, history-destroying way when a new Gnus is put into the Emacs distribution? If so, the Bright Shining Future would be to simply version Gnus within the Emacs tree, and have the Gnus developers maintain their own long-lived branches, just as with anything else. They don't have to make changes outside the Gnus area when they don't want to, after all. Unless Gnus devs do not want to switch to Bazaar? Can anyone here answer, or should I be asking over in some Gnus forum? -Karl