From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kamphausen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: AltGr with Emacs 23 on OSX and German keyboard Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:06:06 +0100 Organization: Church of Emacs Message-ID: <87aayq4ww1.fsf@usenet.my.skamphausen.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1258105307 13076 80.91.229.12 (13 Nov 2009 09:41:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:41:47 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 13 10:41:40 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1N8sey-0001p0-3q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:41:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42598 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1N8sex-0007on-Gu for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:41:39 -0500 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.albasani.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 51 Original-X-Trace: news.albasani.net pqsxpCb8lvfM3tB6EGOUTG2SuA7FoL68r5NtNj0BGlrtx/l6veql8jH1i3hItoSPbfe4ZmQ/gw0XJboeVe7XczNA/ugQqd7xOI/2ol8+XFZSAqlZmwXcTAHlbgXhT2O3 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@albasani.net Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:06:07 +0000 (UTC) X-User-ID: Ry4a04Ka+iRilDI+ubufipTAUdrIJyosNALDc4we4/g= Cancel-Lock: sha1:RrF8M0pQNvNbtw81A1cfRh1txbk= sha1:evK2c7TNp2PsoOkolQ4SRYprluc= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) X-NNTP-Posting-Host: AUSz/mkNxlF4A2sWfJWNFIMXwxc9Sw+cC78qNhm5UiI= Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:174631 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:69702 Archived-At: Fellow Emacsers, due to certain quantum shifts in the space-time-continuum I got a machine with OSX running at home[1]. On that I manually installed Emacs 23.1 and AUCTeX to do some nice LaTeXing. Since I really dislike the original keyboard that came with that computer [2] and since I want to have the keyboard-layout that is printed on the keyboard [3] I plugged a common German keyboard into the USB-port and fetched some keyboard-description file from the Internet [4]. After that many things work as expected. However, whenever I try to type a backslash (AltGr ß on a German Keyboard) Emacs tells me that M-ß is undefined. In fact this counts for all keystrokes involving AltGr. Those of you familiar with German keyboards will know that this makes the following chars unavailable: @\[]{}|~. Try to do some LaTeX-editing without those. I've waded the message-board-sea for hours, mostly finding posts that say one should really try the apple-keyboard and their layout [5] and have now spent 3 evenings trying to find a solution. To no avail. Does anyone in this group have a solution, an url or an idea? Kind Regards, Stefan Footnotes: [1] Boy, if you've been with Linux for >15 years this is hard to take but that's not the story here. [2] And I *don't* want to discuss this like it's been done in numerous messages boards, thank you). After some 20 years of typing you just know what's good for your wrists and what isn't. [3] No discussion either, please. I've been through all that aeons ago. [4] Ridiculous that I can't just switch it, isn't it? [5] Obviously that's the reason for some bitter footnotes here. -- Stefan Kamphausen --- http://www.skamphausen.de a blessed +42 regexp of confusion (weapon in hand) You hit. The format string crumbles and turns to dust.