From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: MS-Windows build broken in Fmake_network_process Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 02:30:42 +0900 Message-ID: <87aatos8jh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <83634jglab.fsf@gnu.org> <83ljddg0w9.fsf@gnu.org> <4BAE867D.3030404@gmail.com> <4BAE9ED4.6070900@t-online.de> <87tys12sdy.fsf@telefonica.net> <87y6h9rsuc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83bpe4zy13.fsf@gnu.org> <87k4sssdoo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1270056716 13019 80.91.229.12 (31 Mar 2010 17:31:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:31:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juanma Barranquero Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 31 19:31:52 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nx1le-0002tZ-39 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:31:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41566 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nx1lc-0003TJ-Vx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:31:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Nx1ka-00035P-26 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:30:44 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=51177 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nx1kX-00034u-KJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:30:43 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nx1kW-0005Fy-I0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:30:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.223]:44480) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nx1kT-0005Eb-Va; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:30:38 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mtps01.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id D526E1535AE; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 02:30:35 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EEE2B1A38CA; Thu, 1 Apr 2010 02:30:42 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM 8.0.12-devo-585 under 21.5 (beta29) "garbanzo" a03421eb562b XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122987 Archived-At: Juanma Barranquero writes: > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 17:39, Stephen J. Turnbull = wrote: >=20 > > C'mon, Juanma, don't egg him on. =A0It's not about POSIX vs. non-POSIX, > > it's about free vs. non-free, which is long-standing Emacs policy (not > > to mention the whole purpose for GNU in the first place). >=20 > I don't hear as much complaining about the Mac support... The Darwin kernel is free, and the Mac-only GUI support (ie, based on the Carbon API) is being phased out in favor of the *Step API (which still requires some Mac-specific code, I suppose, but it's going in the right direction). > > [...] the costs, which are non-zero (though IMO they're nowhere > > near as big as the anti-Windows activists would have it). >=20 > That's exactly what my comment implied. If you say so ... but as far as I can tell the people with any sense of humor left the debate ages ago. Explicit Is Better Than Implicit. ;-)