From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Key bindings proposal Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:37:37 -0400 Message-ID: <87aaoqjzge.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <19534.1494.627000.357123@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19544.1015.468000.280770@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.30901.687000.971249@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <19546.47167.15000.439215@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <87fwys7qao.fsf@telefonica.net> <87hbj8qvd9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87iq3k68ye.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <874of466rj.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87pqxsbrie.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87k4nv7t72.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <19556.28233.750000.798692@gargle.gargle.HOWL> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1281713883 13845 80.91.229.12 (13 Aug 2010 15:38:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:38:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero , Lennart Borgman , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Uday S Reddy Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 13 17:38:01 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OjwKT-0007kE-3w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 17:37:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35723 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OjwKS-0002qy-I7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:37:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60476 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OjwKN-0002qs-4O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:37:52 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OjwKL-0004gF-VB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:37:51 -0400 Original-Received: from pantheon-po18.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.74]:54378) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OjwKL-0004fu-SZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:37:49 -0400 Original-Received: from furry (dhcp128036014221.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.221]) (authenticated bits=0) by pantheon-po18.its.yale.edu (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o7DFbcFP008761 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:37:38 -0400 Original-Received: by furry (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4FB9F16D402; Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:37:37 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <19556.28233.750000.798692@gargle.gargle.HOWL> (Uday S. Reddy's message of "Thu, 12 Aug 2010 22:57:29 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-YaleITSMailFilter: Version 1.2c (attachment(s) not renamed) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:128609 Archived-At: Uday S Reddy writes: > Hi guys, I am not sure where this discussion is headed. Whether these > applications of the windows key are "useful" or not is for the users > to determine, is it not? The problem is that Lennart's proposed solution seems to be the wrong one. If you want to rebind the Windows key to a modifier key, the conceptually correct way to do it should be via a separate program, separate from Emacs. That is exactly how it is done on GNU/Linux (where conventions like Alt-TAB are commonly respected, nowadays). If there is any technical reason why this cannot be done on Windows, I have not yet seen anyone argue it.