From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Antoine Levitt Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: `save-excursion' defeated by `set-buffer' Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:29:15 +0100 Message-ID: <87aaguxi90.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87pqpwr8ay.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87d3lwr56j.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <4d7b8ea3$0$23760$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <87k4g4pdi3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <4d7c2ea3$0$23757$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <87tyf4i4vc.fsf@notengoamigos.org> <8889137b-a01d-4c09-b81c-842785e437cc@y31g2000prd.googlegroups.com> <87r5a7mqm2.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300350647 28840 80.91.229.12 (17 Mar 2011 08:30:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 08:30:47 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 17 09:30:42 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q08bR-0006SD-7B for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:30:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57354 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q08bP-0002v5-GH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 04:30:39 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=35718 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q08aI-0002u2-Id for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 04:29:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q08aH-0001ZZ-54 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 04:29:29 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:39534) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q08aG-0001ZF-U5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 04:29:29 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q08aF-0005xF-46 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:29:27 +0100 Original-Received: from portable115.ceremade.dauphine.fr ([193.48.71.115]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:29:27 +0100 Original-Received: from antoine.levitt by portable115.ceremade.dauphine.fr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2011 09:29:27 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 15 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: portable115.ceremade.dauphine.fr User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:80203 Archived-At: 17/03/11 08:10, rusi > On Mar 17, 8:46 am, rusi wrote: >> Lua? >> >> Anyhow -- dunno if this -- elisp-obsolescence -- is the main/real cruft... > > In particular, this thread's topic itself -- save-excursion, set- > buffer -- does it have anything specifically 'lispy' about it? How > would a non-lisp language obviate this kind of problem except for the > advantages of starting over? He was just kidding. :) (FWIW, from my limited experience, the "advantages" of starting over are extremely relative.)