From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: bidi-display-reordering is now non-nil by default Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:56:36 -0400 Message-ID: <87aabnn3mz.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <20110731.082721.451360942.wl@gnu.org> <20110731.085115.40009301.wl@gnu.org> <877h6yanje.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <878vre95g3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87fwlm7fam.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87bowa7dza.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <877h6y7chn.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <831ux6cv5o.fsf@gnu.org> <87d3gpku3o.fsf@gnus.org> <834o1ypa2b.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1312567017 22593 80.91.229.12 (5 Aug 2011 17:56:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:56:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , list-general@mohsen.1.banan.byname.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 05 19:56:52 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QpOdg-0002h1-9g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:56:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33304 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QpOdf-0007eQ-L6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:56:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:38462) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QpOdc-0007e4-Jg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:56:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QpOdX-0001BW-QE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:56:48 -0400 Original-Received: from vm-emlprdomr-04.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.145]:40960) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QpOdW-00019C-PU; Fri, 05 Aug 2011 13:56:42 -0400 Original-Received: from furball ([128.36.14.32]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-04.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p75HuaJe004529 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:56:37 -0400 In-Reply-To: <834o1ypa2b.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 03 Aug 2011 22:30:20 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.145 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.132.50.145 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:142907 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Please correct me if this isn't what all y'all have in mind. > > Using LRM/RLM _is_ TRT, Lars. It may sound weird to you, but it's > like democracy: the worst political system, except all the rest. I > wrote the entire Hebrew tutorial with these characters, and didn't see > any problems. It just takes some time to get used to it, that's all. > R2L users already are used to it. If bidi-display-reordering is nil in the Gnus summary buffer, is it still necessary to add these LRM/RLM characters?