From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Poll about proposed change in DEL (aka Backspace) and Delete Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 20:53:20 +0200 Message-ID: <87aa9hc3fj.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> References: <87litcvtu2.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <877h4mpqg2.fsf@foolinux.dyndns.org> <87wrcmxwg2.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <87hb3qj8n2.fsf@foolinux.dyndns.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1317668026 9016 80.91.229.12 (3 Oct 2011 18:53:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:53:46 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 03 20:53:42 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RAne2-0003Pn-CM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 20:53:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60383 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RAne1-0008NU-RL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:53:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:44645) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RAndx-0008NE-DW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:53:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RAndw-0000jw-Ak for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:53:37 -0400 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:40081) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RAndw-0000jo-3X for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 14:53:36 -0400 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RAnds-0003Lh-8J for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 20:53:32 +0200 Original-Received: from 91-67-169-145-dynip.superkabel.de ([91.67.169.145]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 20:53:32 +0200 Original-Received: from tassilo by 91-67-169-145-dynip.superkabel.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 03 Oct 2011 20:53:32 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 18 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 91-67-169-145-dynip.superkabel.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:W8T9iwVRRU9cC1Io14XmqM+wIAE= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 80.91.229.12 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:82425 Archived-At: Ian Zimmerman writes: Hi Ian, > One reaction to both hunks: have you read the actual proposal by RMS? > I have, but perhaps I misread it so in that case please point out my > error. As I understand it if the proposal is approved active region > status or transient-mark-mode won't matter - it will be enough to just > have a region at all (ie. to have set a mark and have mark != point). No, no. You need to have an active region, which depends on having transient-mark-mode on. The latter got default in emacs 23, but DEL did not delete the active region. With the proposed behavior, it will be deleted. The proposed behavior is that you get with the current emacs 24 pretest tarball. Bye, Tassilo