From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Issues with emacs (was Emacs users a dying breed?) Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 19:38:08 +0800 Message-ID: <87a9ztndnj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87bokbb4zw.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1340537908 30986 80.91.229.3 (24 Jun 2012 11:38:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 11:38:28 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 24 13:38:27 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sil99-0006Rb-LA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 13:38:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43642 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sil99-0003na-Lb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 07:38:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52102) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sil94-0003mz-Cp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 07:38:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sil92-0000tp-NV for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 07:38:21 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:50263) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sil92-0000tO-Gm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 07:38:20 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sil8z-0006Mk-2w for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 13:38:17 +0200 Original-Received: from 114.250.121.72 ([114.250.121.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 13:38:17 +0200 Original-Received: from eric by 114.250.121.72 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2012 13:38:17 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 32 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 114.250.121.72 X-Pgp-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=0xC98BAE7B99D0D373 X-Pgp-Fingerprint: 8E19 28A9 2B51 0C67 565D DB34 C98B AE7B 99D0 D373 User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:0fJARH+ACmUNCa3YSA1DSm3KbBg= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:85412 Archived-At: On Sun, Jun 24 2012, Tom wrote: > Bastien gnu.org> writes: > >> >> The good news is that, whether Emacs users are a dying breed >> or not, the only remedy to this hypothetical issue is to have >> more Emacs developers. >> > > But how to have more developers. I see 3 possibilites: > > 1. Motivate more users to be volunteer developers? Any idea how > to do that? One possibility: if a pure-Lisp implementation of Emacs became the "main" implementation, I wonder if many Elisp-gurus who aren't particularly enthusiastic about C programming would be encouraged to expand their hacking into the Emacs basics. If the line between programming Emacs packages and programming Emacs guts were blurred or erased altogether, I'll bet you'd get a lot more people able and willing to contribute work on fundamentals like the display engine or multi-threading. Just a thought, E -- GNU Emacs 24.1.50.1 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.10) of 2012-06-11 on pellet