From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11364: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 11364 wishlist Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 14:29:50 +0800 Message-ID: <87a9z5a3vl.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87sjd4lys4.fsf@gnu.org> <38C346B84BFA43C998DAA00564D4CF2B@us.oracle.com> <87liiuke7g.fsf@gnu.org> <03B2AA2026DA436E892FA43E858B0F66@us.oracle.com> <83F7E58F698E45CFBCAFF3F713A1DE06@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1342074642 30624 80.91.229.3 (12 Jul 2012 06:30:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 06:30:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11364@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 12 08:30:42 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SpCvB-0004j1-BD for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:30:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44659 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SpCvA-0001RI-Km for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 02:30:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56134) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SpCv6-0001R4-Qo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 02:30:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SpCv2-0007uF-Mg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 02:30:36 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:53330) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SpCv2-0007uB-JA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 02:30:32 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SpD0M-0006JZ-79 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 02:36:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Chong Yidong Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 06:36:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11364 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11364-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11364.134207493124217 (code B ref 11364); Thu, 12 Jul 2012 06:36:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11364) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Jul 2012 06:35:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34638 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SpCzq-0006IX-2Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 02:35:30 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([208.118.235.10]:52964) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SpCzn-0006IP-0C for 11364@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 02:35:28 -0400 Original-Received: from [155.69.19.139] (port=37167 helo=ulysses) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SpCuR-0001uc-NL; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 02:29:56 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83F7E58F698E45CFBCAFF3F713A1DE06@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:05:42 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:61840 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: >> M-x delete-selection-mode ; turn it on >> >> Double click a word, sexp, line, or what have you. Or select >> the region some other way. The point is to get an active region. >> >> Use `left', `right', `up', or `down' cursor keys (or `C-f' >> etc. if you prefer). The region stays active and is extended >> (or restricted). >> >> This useful, standard Emacs feature was lost starting with >> Emacs 23. Now, moving the cursor deactivates the region. >> It should not, at least not in `delete-selection-mode'. > > Based on the definitions of "wishlist" and "normal" severity, I reclassified > this easily reproducible regression as "normal". > http://debbugs.gnu.org/Developer.html#severities The behavior of Emacs 22 is an unintended and (AFAICT) undocumented consequence of the delete-selection-mode implementation---basically a bug, since it had nothing to do with deleting selections. We might eventually re-implement this as an optional behavior, but that would be a new feature (it will certainly not be the default behavior, since it is very non-standard for graphical applications). So I do not regard this as a regression, or even a bug. I'm setting the severity to wishlist, because there are better things to work on. Do not play with the severity---that will not increase the likelihood of this feature being implemented.