From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nix Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal to improve the nomenclature of scrolling directions Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:00:04 +0000 Message-ID: <87a9uwumbv.fsf@spindle.srvr.nix> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1352132714 10334 80.91.229.3 (5 Nov 2012 16:25:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 16:25:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Dani Moncayo To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 05 17:25:23 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TVPUI-0008KA-PL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:25:22 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46623 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TVPU9-0004qD-HP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:25:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41957) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TVPU3-0004mr-AZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:25:11 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TVPU1-0007Mf-Jz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:25:07 -0500 Original-Received: from icebox.esperi.org.uk ([81.187.191.129]:60628 helo=mail.esperi.org.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TVPU1-0007Hx-AT; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 11:25:05 -0500 Original-Received: from spindle.srvr.nix (nix@spindle.srvr.nix [192.168.14.15]) by mail.esperi.org.uk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id qA5F04lY017891; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 15:00:04 GMT Emacs: resistance is futile; you will be assimilated and byte-compiled. In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 05 Nov 2012 06:06:39 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-wuwien-Metrics: spindle 1290; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 81.187.191.129 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:154689 Archived-At: On 5 Nov 2012, Richard Stallman verbalised: > If the world has indeed converged on the other meaning then I agree > it would be good to be compatible. The world had converged on the other meaning by the late 1980s at the very latest. By now, as far as I can tell, Emacs is unique among modern editors in its naming scheme for scroll directions. (Even on mobile devices with touchscreens, where you swipe the text to move the text up, that operation is *still* called 'scrolling down'.) -- NULL && (void)