org-reload and new exporter

org-reload and new exporter

[Andreas Leha]

Hi all,

I just stumbled on this.  I am building org (Org-mode version 7.9.2
release_7.9.2-585-g3d56f5) now basically with 'ORG_ADD_CONTRIB = org*' in
local.mk  (not sure if that is relevant, though).

When I call org-reload the new exporter forgets all loaded backends and
even re-evaluating (require 'org-e-latex), etc. does not bring them
back.

Regards,
Andreas

Re: org-reload and new exporter

[Achim Gratz]

Andreas Leha <andreas.leha <at> med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:
> When I call org-reload the new exporter forgets all loaded backends and

Did you check *Messages*?  I've tried again just now to be sure and this is
working as expected for me.  

> even re-evaluating (require 'org-e-latex), etc. does not bring them
> back.

That doesn't do anything if (featurep 'org-e-latex) is true, try load-library
instead.


Regards,
Achim.

Re: org-reload and new exporter

[Andreas Leha]

Hi Achim,

thanks for checking.

Achim Gratz <Stromeko@NexGo.DE> writes:

> Andreas Leha <andreas.leha <at> med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:
>> When I call org-reload the new exporter forgets all loaded backends and
>
> Did you check *Messages*?  I've tried again just now to be sure and this is
> working as expected for me.  
>
*Messages* does not show anything suspicious:
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>> even re-evaluating (require 'org-e-latex), etc. does not bring them
>> back.
>
> That doesn't do anything if (featurep 'org-e-latex) is true, try load-library
> instead.

(featurep 'org-e-latex) is t
and
(load-library "org-e-latex")
indeed does the job.  Thanks for this workaround!

I am installing to a custom location.  Is that the problem here?


Anyway, thanks again.

Regards,
Andreas

Re: org-reload and new exporter

[Achim Gratz]

Andreas Leha <andreas.leha <at> med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:
> *Messages* does not show anything suspicious:

Indeed.  Since the org-export backends clearly are reloaded, some of the later
reloads must subvert them.  I'd assume that this is due to something else from
contrib you have loaded, but you could simply reload org step by step in the
order that org-reload does and check where the export backends drop out.

> I am installing to a custom location.  Is that the problem here?

I don't think so, I do that all the time.  But I'm not using nearly as many
packages from contrib...


Regards,
Achim.

Re: org-reload and new exporter

[Andreas Leha]

Hi Achim,

Achim Gratz <Stromeko@NexGo.DE> writes:

> Andreas Leha <andreas.leha <at> med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:
>> *Messages* does not show anything suspicious:
>
> Indeed.  Since the org-export backends clearly are reloaded, some of the later
> reloads must subvert them.  I'd assume that this is due to something else from
> contrib you have loaded, but you could simply reload org step by step in the
> order that org-reload does and check where the export backends drop out.
>

Good suggestion.  I did, and org-export is the guilty one.

Should that be loaded before?

Regards,
Andreas

Re: org-reload and new exporter

[Nicolas Goaziou]

Hello,

Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:

> Good suggestion.  I did, and org-export is the guilty one.
>
> Should that be loaded before?

You should try to update Org and try again. I just commited a patch
which should fix the issue.


Regards,

-- 
Nicolas Goaziou

Re: org-reload and new exporter

[Andreas Leha]

Nicolas Goaziou <n.goaziou@gmail.com> writes:

> Hello,
>
> Andreas Leha <andreas.leha@med.uni-goettingen.de> writes:
>
>> Good suggestion.  I did, and org-export is the guilty one.
>>
>> Should that be loaded before?
>
> You should try to update Org and try again. I just commited a patch
> which should fix the issue.

Confirmed.  Thanks!

Regards,
Andreas