From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bastien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13276: 24.2.50; apropos-variable Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 15:33:21 +0100 Message-ID: <87a9sjkamm.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> References: <87ehi1wfhj.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87pq1kc4eo.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <38E9A068A13749DC894603C55CC6D667@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1357655658 15177 80.91.229.3 (8 Jan 2013 14:34:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 14:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13276@debbugs.gnu.org, rms@gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 08 15:34:35 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TsaG8-000691-81 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 15:34:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33889 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TsaFs-0003wu-Km for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 09:34:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34293) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TsaFp-0003vl-8v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 09:34:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TsaFk-0005mL-IP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 09:34:13 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:43147) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TsaFk-0005mA-FB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 09:34:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TsaFo-0002xu-38 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 09:34:12 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Bastien Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2013 14:34:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13276 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13276-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13276.135765563611374 (code B ref 13276); Tue, 08 Jan 2013 14:34:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13276) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jan 2013 14:33:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56388 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TsaFT-0002xJ-6A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 09:33:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-bk0-f49.google.com ([209.85.214.49]:40240) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TsaFD-0002wm-ND for 13276@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 09:33:44 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-bk0-f49.google.com with SMTP id jm19so282561bkc.22 for <13276@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:33:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:sender:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references :user-agent:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; bh=j0U+t2r+rsPX5anmVjkSSvZzA4IXiY1zNisni+NVKYY=; b=gA4odKh4Q0pZ77QJTf/BTSjFAM4uMiMMFPdNwpsDrOJikHd8K78kqT9NaeSzyeBshI Rw1xkvKi7cZKMXUcUeAWVbkU43G209oiirX4tlwhU82bzvajSGmdID3Bs8gsRLMVtcqC 3FgvdwGYZSl7NS1kfi614g4w4EfZtFSlCripzWiwUtjAqejEHjCLcHgoolI54vsksKqj YrfwxAO3JOdVazO1JqA3h6JKaV12FgtTN9W0YEbvaqP8nezXaAZoEDgQr4RiJkwXS3Lr +WF6bikzcuU+hoNAFxo8Mozu73jf7JDk5mIgxWuZBNk0fxpD42002cx2FNkhBU1/Y9Si CxTQ== X-Received: by 10.204.12.220 with SMTP id y28mr33326707bky.112.1357655603811; Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:33:23 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from bzg.localdomain (mar75-2-81-56-68-112.fbx.proxad.net. [81.56.68.112]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 18sm45573318bkv.0.2013.01.08.06.33.21 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 08 Jan 2013 06:33:23 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by bzg.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 471E21C2032F; Tue, 8 Jan 2013 15:33:21 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: <38E9A068A13749DC894603C55CC6D667@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 8 Jan 2013 06:11:12 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:69494 Archived-At: "Drew Adams" writes: >> > It renames `apropos-variable' to `apropos-option' and define a new >> >> I think it should be "apropos-user-option", but other than >> that, I'm OK with your change. > > Too bad. That just confuses users more. The only options in Emacs are user > options. The name you've chosen hints that there are also non-user options. This was also my thinking when I proposed `apropos-option' and not `apropos-user-option'. But giving it a second thought I think `apropos-user-option' is fine. It is a bit more explicit than necessary, but that's the game when offering doc affordances. For newbies, this will just mean "my options", not something more contrived than you can see when you are both an Emacs expert and trying to put yourself in the newbie's shoes... 2 cts of course, -- Bastien