From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jambunathan K Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Copyright/Distribution questions (Emacs/Orgmode) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 21:55:32 +0530 Message-ID: <87a9pf4m4j.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87ober717z.fsf@gmail.com> <87mwu9fiu0.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d2v4f5bb.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87r4jjp2d2.fsf@yandex.ru> <8738vagciq.fsf@gmail.com> <87a9pgayzy.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo9wyr74.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87y5d0m3l3.fsf@gmail.com> <515BE920.1000503@online.de> <87obdwvw6v.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <515BF509.2040706@online.de> <87k3ok9bq7.fsf@zigzag.favinet> <87r4ir4r19.fsf@gmail.com> <83bo9vir0k.fsf@gnu.org> <87hajn4muw.fsf@gmail.com> <83zjxfh9ik.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1365006353 29924 80.91.229.3 (3 Apr 2013 16:25:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 16:25:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ttn@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 03 18:26:20 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UNQVt-0002Vh-9L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 18:26:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52491 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNQVU-0007Mb-HT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:25:52 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57971) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNQVP-0007ML-Ci for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:25:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNQVO-00081j-2x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:25:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pb0-f48.google.com ([209.85.160.48]:60191) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNQVN-00081Z-I3; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:25:45 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pb0-f48.google.com with SMTP id xb4so932327pbc.35 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:25:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-type; bh=qTazr9ao7AbMgH1hAAgIWScxnHKbU4taVpMwuC0k5iA=; b=Xhh8hAnSamff/je7AEkLwokSyL84mmLJ7R17j8mjj7vFdmXJJUUIu+Qphqx9p6WhC2 hj0WLWJswG8m3rA21w4yF98ZTAMZ9L77F4Yy5unDH1FGndpNUCKGnZw/g3pxY8hQ/3Y3 JKOYVmXtXTQ0SIuEVd7T4Gy7uqjmJn7t8TlUDOAPxRzBT24DBtwFW4EU5mxpw1qnVXba xZe0d1FBoe2bEeY1VHlZUYGDiwK4tsyLytzLcNSVjd1e5XjrdYwOUAdF3CICfaxBwmiN Lbn8VwN8SmT850masEVjVkpWO9RWhuR2ckp8cPksKNVEVBd/Xn1s69hMR6DszWGFVnTA bAKA== X-Received: by 10.68.134.38 with SMTP id ph6mr3305988pbb.205.1365006344660; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:25:44 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.241.28.50]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id kt5sm6552698pbc.30.2013.04.03.09.25.41 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Apr 2013 09:25:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83zjxfh9ik.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 03 Apr 2013 19:19:31 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.160.48 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158598 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Jambunathan K >> Cc: ttn@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 21:39:43 +0530 >> >> I want to go back to the 4 definitions what constitutes a Free Software. >> >> * The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0). >> >> Yes, for this. > > But only if not in Org mode or not through Emacs. That's a NO. I have nothing against Org project bundling it. I have nothing against Emacs bundling it. >> * The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does >> your computing as you wish (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a >> precondition for this. >> >> Yes, for this. > > But only if not in Org mode or not through Emacs. That's a NO. I have nothing against Org project bundling it. I have nothing against Emacs bundling it. >> * The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor >> (freedom 2). >> >> Yes, for this. > > But only if not in Org mode or not through Emacs. That's a NO. I have nothing against Org project bundling it. I have nothing against Emacs bundling it. >> * The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others >> (freedom 3). By doing this you can give the whole community a chance >> to benefit from your changes. Access to the source code is a >> precondition for this. >> >> Yes, for this. > > But only if not in Org mode or not through Emacs. That's a NO. > >> >> So the changes will still continue to be shared and it won't be via >> >> Emacs. >> > >> > A.k.a. "non-free software". >> >> I not preventing Emacs from making use of it. > > You prevent _users_ from exercising fundamental freedoms available > with Free Software. You software is thus non-free when distributed > under those restrictions. > >> I will retain the right to my changes. > > That's a non-issue; an author always retains his rights. I am not assigning my rights to FSF.