From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: don't show the $-bar that indicates text before and/or after the window view, horizontally Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 00:58:37 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87a9lb1s6a.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> References: <87ehap9mam.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87k3kfx4sh.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <51f00beb$0$2060$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <87wqof27ae.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> <87li4v1xdr.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1374706814 4583 80.91.229.3 (24 Jul 2013 23:00:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 23:00:14 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 25 01:00:17 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V282b-0000xg-Ft for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Jul 2013 01:00:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52692 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V282b-0005Mt-6A for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 19:00:17 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 54 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: SWN/nubmpQxYKwY7hPy4YA.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:qlKroE9p+A4JqVHqpNPpA6dUlos= Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:200110 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:92376 Archived-At: Juanma Barranquero writes: >> Yes, it is. I'm not afraid of my computer. > > -1: rude comment, cavalier attitude. +1: Cavalier, that's a compliment. > Eli's suggestion that "messing with such advanced stuff is not > recommended" should not be interpreted, I think, as "Don't Do It > Because You're Not Prepared Or Smart Enough". He also said "... if you don't even know ..." which you don't quote. And you also spell out a possible (rude) interpretation, even though you say that wasn't the point. That means that interpretation is possible and close at hand. And - hiding the fringes. Is that really considered "advanced"? If it can be achieved with one line of Elisp, I don't think it is especially advanced or in any way dangerous to configure. > It's more like, well, if you like to experiment so much without > reading the manuals I have read the Emacs manual - twice. And the white book on Emacs that O'Reilly. If the fringes were mentioned in those books, I have no problem with that because my memory is not perfect. > then please don't waste people's time asking questions I'm not wasting anyone's time because I'm only in charge of my own time. > surely you'll be able to figure it all eventually without > outside help. No, that is not what happened at all. I asked the question and got help, as you saw. Eli's answer was helpful as well, until it turned rude. > Asking questions and then rating helpful answers for rudeness > is... interesting. Eli's answer were helpful *and* rude. There was a helpful part, *and* a rude part. But there is no balance in that. You can't help me, and then be rude, and think everything's OK. It doesn't matter how much you help me: I don't accept rudeness. -- Emanuel Berg - programmer (hire me! CV below) computer projects: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 internet activity: http://home.student.uu.se/embe8573