From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jambunathan K Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [RFC] Micro-Init files in GNU ELPA Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2013 10:16:25 +0530 Message-ID: <87a9gfx5um.fsf@gmail.com> References: <8761ra7uq3.fsf@yandex.ru> <6c891113-22b0-4f3d-afc9-a735548efbbb@default> <87pppdu2tb.fsf_-_@gmail.com> <87li0039d0.fsf_-_@flea.lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1386218813 11156 80.91.229.3 (5 Dec 2013 04:46:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 04:46:53 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 05 05:46:58 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VoQq0-0004Qk-N7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 05:46:56 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51748 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoQq0-0001cO-AT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 23:46:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41721) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoQpr-0001bP-1f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 23:46:52 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoQpl-0007ZZ-NE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 23:46:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pd0-x233.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c02::233]:39223) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VoQpl-0007ZU-Fe for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 23:46:41 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pd0-f179.google.com with SMTP id r10so24052890pdi.10 for ; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 20:46:40 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-type; bh=nOIldyi50FttQuIQKRIuOCn+AP3UazSLsWeMKBsEiww=; b=TWFMv8+wD8173gIJ5wwUL9uzeXlSb1scnAjp/uW/Sig8oN3V8bZgg79p9QAuP47a/6 yHS1ai1Dxr0m5GhcxgRPKI0ccufwG87Kyed1tUv3Yv6sFTaM5SvPwnlR1mDvYWkl0W3F yEPGMSSMuV+QDZrDMbMiPKTBDiFka1vKYlPtXrZnOG6+OkCvFhUN7UpcwL+tUCwhyjWM ac5gBjZ6y8teWY3fEARhY+iPLD1s6lueniAEYsuHgZD0vCCkBEsFeiu4vaLd1ATkacd/ Kp09ubFTRaySlH4Llrrsa+GG5FWDDzcHPCgAyWkMohu079682AJwQnMzDOf3RIe/CK5Z yG2g== X-Received: by 10.66.242.17 with SMTP id wm17mr87240274pac.102.1386218800408; Wed, 04 Dec 2013 20:46:40 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from debian-6.05 ([115.242.206.45]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id km1sm49605267pbd.13.2013.12.04.20.46.38 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 04 Dec 2013 20:46:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87li0039d0.fsf_-_@flea.lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Wed, 04 Dec 2013 10:48:43 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c02::233 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:166106 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > I think all of these will cause problems > > - deprecation of variables > - incompatibility of snippets > - dependencies > - loss of configurability and visibility > - bug and maintenance burden on the submitters > - documentation (or lack thereof) My suggestion acknowledges the existing behaviour and merely systematizes it. My suggestion is a practical suggestion that need to be tested on the field and dismissed with a theoretical object. Many businesses have 1. Small-businesses-suite 2. Pre-configured, Plug-and-play appliances They do make money (In GNU parlance, happy FLOSS users). > I personally would not use or enjoy such a system. That's precisely the point. You don't have to. Installing packages from GNU ELPA is optional. Most intermediate to expert Emacs users will not use such a system. But new users will.