From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How can I put display-time to the right of the mode line? Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 18:33:36 +0100 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87a9g35oc6.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> References: <8761qvxeub.fsf@gnu.org> <87haafgg1p.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> <871u1jx9y2.fsf@gnu.org> <87bo0ngesz.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1387042514 18278 80.91.229.3 (14 Dec 2013 17:35:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 17:35:14 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 14 18:35:20 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vrt7W-000652-Mb for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 18:35:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48135 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vrt7V-0003nJ-GT for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 12:35:17 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!eu.feeder.erje.net!news.stack.nl!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 64 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: VVbyYd/iFZoeWNmD9i++cQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:tIYvfmXAwLFpfq1/p34a3Oi7kxg= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:202711 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:94980 Archived-At: Rusi writes: >> Aha, that makes sense. I have GNU Emacs >> 23.4.1. Perhaps I should upgrade. But I'm very >> hesitant to upgrade stuff. My system always works >> like a Swiss watch. Only when I "upgrade", all hell >> breaks lose. > > Like the 'Swiss' watches made in China? > > Little more seriously: I upgraded my Debian 2-3 days > ago and it crashed harder than I've ever seen. Just > could not log in. With a lot of difficulty logged in > and filed a bug-report. Was told that my gdm and my > kernel version did not agree. What Debian release do you use? I have these repositories deb-src http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib deb http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib which sure looks like Jessie to me, but on the other hand, with cat /etc/os-release I get PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 7.0 (wheezy)" NAME="Debian GNU/Linux" VERSION_ID="7.0" VERSION="7.0 (wheezy)" ID=debian ANSI_COLOR="1;31" HOME_URL="http://www.debian.org/" SUPPORT_URL="http://www.debian.org/support/" BUG_REPORT_URL="http://bugs.debian.org/" and with lsb_release -a I get Distributor ID: Debian Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.0 (wheezy) Release: 7.0 Codename: wheezy But as for upgrading, aptitude uses those repositories so in practice I should use Jessie (right?). The reason I mention it is that Jessie should be more sensitive to upgrades (naturally). Only upgrade when you experience problems, or when you want to upgrade one specific piece of software. Never upgrade everything "just because". That's my piece of advice, anyway. -- Emanuel Berg, programmer-for-rent. CV, projects, etc at uXu underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573