From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unibyte characters, strings, and buffers Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:05:49 +0900 Message-ID: <87a9c8o2yq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <831txozsqa.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppl7y30l.fsf@gnu.org> <87r45nouvx.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <8361myyac6.fsf@gnu.org> <87a9capqfr.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <83eh1mfd09.fsf@gnu.org> <87ob0pnyt6.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87ioqxnhhk.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87bnwpov7b.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87eh1lnf4q.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <877g7dos88.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1396145183 14822 80.91.229.3 (30 Mar 2014 02:06:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 02:06:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Kastrup Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 30 04:06:17 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WU58a-0004l4-8f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 04:06:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42098 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WU58Z-0003aJ-Qy for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 22:06:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53878) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WU58R-0003O6-Lr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 22:06:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WU58L-0006zm-Pl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 22:06:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:52068) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WU58B-0006wb-0N; Sat, 29 Mar 2014 22:05:51 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7939707DD; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:05:50 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 10E771A28DC; Sun, 30 Mar 2014 11:05:50 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <877g7dos88.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" 2a0f42961ed4 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:171189 Archived-At: David Kastrup writes: > "Stephen J. Turnbull" writes: > > It just requires a slightly more complex design, which would be > > appropriate for Emacsen (as compared to Python). > > If the "slightly more complexity" hits in unexpected places, it's going > to end up a liability. Having more than one charset to work with if > characters themselves don't contain a charset specification is affecting > a load of stuff that can then conceivably work in more than one > way. I'm a little smarter than that. The design I have in mind would be transparent. Maybe it wouldn't work; maybe it would be inefficient. But one thing it wouldn't do is present a charset other than Unicode to Lisp.