From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs pretest Date: Tue, 01 Apr 2014 22:50:31 +0200 Message-ID: <87a9c4hizs.fsf@rosalinde.fritz.box> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1396385476 14116 80.91.229.3 (1 Apr 2014 20:51:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2014 20:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 01 22:51:09 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WV5eG-000452-5g for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 22:51:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34322 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WV5eF-0008JK-Pq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 16:51:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45555) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WV5e6-0008Hf-Ry for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 16:51:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WV5e0-0006TJ-N1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 16:50:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:62183) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WV5e0-0006Rn-Dz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 16:50:52 -0400 Original-Received: from rosalinde.fritz.box ([89.245.114.254]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx001) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M39zL-1XMMWL2Gu7-00sxkY; Tue, 01 Apr 2014 22:50:50 +0200 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:EgoB+YVy0DPHLRfq1m5jxbw/FrmIKRwplnzst9LmFNIIm0fwubK N+h2vIdhkWi/eqz1VfJX1Mpuu2mxwo/YTnC95gtE//mpTIgn71FIuIvHUOTzT9wLggTV9qc I7jvtb3jNtx+78tyyqM7j1JhYsSJ+nSlwBGDSI9b7OKcXP0DNe2siTZuG1UwoaC4ImrgpTQ TE3z5XpjietYlJyoTbVWA== X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.15.18 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:171253 Archived-At: On Mon, 31 Mar 2014 09:27:30 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: > I think we're ready for the first pretest. Sean, can you take care of it? This is sooner than I was expecting. I have changes for Todo mode which are almost ready but I won't be able to complete and commit them until at least after April 8, since I'm travelling, but possibly not until after April 15, since I have other pressing things to do when I return. The changes include revised documentation necessitated by the changes I committed just before the feature freeze. I also discovered a few bugs, which I've fixed. In addition, I realized that it is easy to provide the same kind of user feedback for invoking item editing as I implemented for item insertion before the feature freeze. For editing, the code is much simpler; it does not add new functionality, just makes the user interface nicer, simpler and more consistent. I also slightly improved the insertion feedback. These changes also makes it much easier to provide a practicable menu for Todo mode, which I'd been having trouble with before. I think these changes (again, no new features, just user interface improvements, and some code cleanup) really should be in 24.4, since this will be the first release containing the new Todo mode, and without them, the user interface is worse. So I hope you'll let me commit them as soon as I'm able to, even if it's not in time for the first pretest. Steve Berman