From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: RTF for emacs Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 20:22:07 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87a9a79gvk.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87fvk012fi.fsf@debian.uxu> <8761kw58n4.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1400955930 32289 80.91.229.3 (24 May 2014 18:25:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 18:25:30 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 24 20:25:24 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WoGdD-0001Rk-2l for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 May 2014 20:25:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49006 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WoGdC-00070E-FL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 May 2014 14:25:18 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.xs4all.nl!newsfeed1.news.xs4all.nl!xs4all!news.stack.nl!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 33 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: u+UUXbnu1hlDFr5pMibebQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:KiHHItHcISfl+tCibmoztw+Ox4M= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:205554 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:97824 Archived-At: Thien-Thi Nguyen writes: > What kind of diagrams? Does RTF handle diagrams at > all? Unabashed plug: > . Ha-ha, "foreground" :) But that's actually a great idea (not just aa2u, but artist-mode as well). I have been looking for a way to do simple diagrams (trees, FSMs and so on) with the keyboard only (i.e., generate from definitions) - I have tried with ImageMagick and even Dia, as it uses XML, so why not edit that first hand? Answer: Problem with both approaches is that it required too much back-and-forth edit-and-check-and-fix-and-check-etc. so it just wasn't pleasant or efficient (perhaps if you had a dual monitor/projector and on-the-fly-update it would be). This seems very interesting! When I got a cool diagram, how do you propose I embed it with the LaTeX PDF? I know there is way to include plain text "as is" - perhaps that's even better than to first export it as a picture, and then include the picture? It is certainly more appealing - faster and smaller. -- underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573