From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Thorpe Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs Mini Manual (PART 3) - CUSTOMIZING AND EXTENDING EMACS Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 12:51:44 +0100 Message-ID: <87a98gt8of.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> References: <87lhs2qxoq.fsf@debian.uxu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1405079542 8924 80.91.229.3 (11 Jul 2014 11:52:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 11:52:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Emanuel Berg Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 11 13:52:14 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1X5ZN7-0007CY-Au for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 13:52:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44272 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X5ZN6-0003TV-O4 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 07:52:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52411) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X5ZMq-0003TE-ET for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 07:52:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X5ZMj-000348-PG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 07:51:56 -0400 Original-Received: from outbound-smtp05.blacknight.com ([81.17.249.38]:55441) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1X5ZMj-00033R-Ij for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 07:51:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.blacknight.com (pemlinmail05.blacknight.ie [81.17.254.26]) by outbound-smtp05.blacknight.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B1298EB1 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 11:51:44 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: (qmail 30677 invoked from network); 11 Jul 2014 11:51:48 -0000 Original-Received: from unknown (HELO RTLaptop) (rt@robertthorpeconsulting.com@[77.130.85.223]) by 81.17.254.9 with ESMTPSA (DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA encrypted, authenticated); 11 Jul 2014 11:51:47 -0000 In-Reply-To: <87lhs2qxoq.fsf@debian.uxu> (message from Emanuel Berg on Wed, 09 Jul 2014 18:55:17 +0200) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 81.17.249.38 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:98650 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > Robert Thorpe writes: > >> I recommend using a new version of the Emacs manual >> set. The last version of Emacs 18 was released more >> than 21 years ago. The current manual describes >> RMAIL in detail. A separate manual describes GNUS, >> that manual is part of the set. "Message-mode" is >> the mode for composing email and newsgroup posts that >> comes with GNUS. > > So message-mode comes with Gnus? I thought it was older > than Gnus, pre-Internet, pre-everything, perhaps used > with uucp or even for intra-computer "mails". It > doesn't have the "gnus-" prefix that is very > consistently implemented in the Gnus world. Message mode has nothing to do with pre-internet stuff. If you use GNUS then compose a message and key C-h m in the compose buffer. It'll say "Message mode defined in `message.el'". Open message.el and look at it's directory .../lisp/gnus/ . BR, Robert Thorpe