Re: Elisp addiction not as bad in light of Linux forkoholism

[Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se>]

Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl> writes:

>> I have 24.4 as well and I got that straight from
>> the repos with aptitude. What are you guys talking
>> about? :)
>
> Maybe nowadays it's better. Don't know. This is not
> really the worst thing about Ubuntu, anyway.

Again, I don't use Ubuntu but I always thought the
aptitude stuff worked close to the same for all Debian
forks (and dpkg based distros), though the policy for
the repositories vary. Ubuntu has its own set, but
Knoppix uses those of the stable Debian release, for
example. (Knoppix, originally a "Live CD" Debian fork,
now profiled as a "rescue distro" for broken machines,
itself forked a couple of times.)

> When I hit C-M-t to start a terminal, I have to wait
> approximately 8 seconds.

Do you have those with xbindkeys or do you mean from
Emacs? But either way, it shouldn't take that long.
Ubuntu is considered very "bloated" for a Linux
distro, which generally means it has a lot of stuff
going on under the surface Windoze-style with popups
and other irritating stuff. That of course is a burden
on the system and in particular it can slow down the
interactive feel and responsiveness, and this reduces a
lot the quality-of-life for the computer user, hour by
hour.

It seems GUI OS developers think people have, or will
soon have anyway, computers much faster than those
they actually have. How many threads and question have
you seen online: I don't want this, how do I disable
that, etc.? And how many: I want a small clock, a
calendar, a funny fish, backgrounds that rotate in
four dimensions, etc.? But I understand people want to
be active and creative. All the distro mania as about
that. So even if the form sucks to a great degree
there is some magic energy to it, for sure.

And I still never saw a full-blown DE that came with
the touch-speed of a sweet lonesome terminal.

> When I hit the "Windoze" key to start the "dash" (I
> guess this is what it's called), I have to wait
> approximately 6 seconds. Not really a best user
> experience.

"dash" as in Debian Almquist shell?

One way that works to make the computer faster is to
disable the login manager and then start X manually.
Then just put the stuff you want in xinitrc. The rest,
you won't get. If the computer is slow with just a WM
(e.g. openbox) and xterm, then something is seriously
wrong :)

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