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From: Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [solved] Re: How to uninstall Emacs?
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 03:09:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a8y86frj.fsf@debian.uxu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.782.1429134342.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org

Bob Proulx <bob@proulx.com> writes:

> But the problem is that people don't actually do
> that very often. They don't learn first with
> a victim system and then work through the problems.
> Instead people run their critical production servers
> that way. They run their main desktops that way.
> And then when they have problems they complain that
> the OS is terrible, it crashed their desktop, they
> can't read their email, help!, and they sling enough
> mud at it. They can't wait to move off that terrible
> horrible distribution and move to the next one which
> is a thousand times better. Really! I see this all
> of the time!

OK, perhaps Sid shouldn't be used by Debian beginners
but you don't need to be a wizard to use it. If you
are an aspiring wizard perhaps using it will take you
closer to wizardry, at least if you have a parallel
system so you can still do stuff and don't have to
spend too much time fixing Sid.

> Many of the problems are related to package
> dependencies. Perhaps most of them. A Sid user needs
> to be skilled in identifying package dependencies,
> will need to hold packages, will need to manually
> install older versions of packages to avoid bugs

Indeed, you get to do such stuff.

I did this once - it was the image viewer gliv, which
I wanted because it can do slideshows, but the latest
version (in Debian Sid) had a bug and terminated on
startup. Once "down"graded it worked fine.

Temporarily change /etc/apt/sources.list and then

    sudo aptitude install PACKAGE=VERSION

after finding out the sought-after version's number.

But I don't remember many such problems from my Sid
days. What might explain it is on the whole I don't
use aptitude that much, because I already have zsh and
Emacs :) But I definitely did install new
programs habitually.

-- 
underground experts united
http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-04-16  1:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-08 18:29 How to uninstall Emacs? Rodolfo Medina
2015-04-08 18:30 ` J. David Boyd
2015-04-08 18:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-04-08 21:15 ` Bob Proulx
2015-04-09 19:54 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2015-04-11 13:11   ` Rodolfo Medina
     [not found] ` <mailman.243.1428527741.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-09 23:07   ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-11 13:11     ` [solved] " Rodolfo Medina
2015-04-11 19:05       ` Bob Proulx
2015-04-12 11:34         ` Rodolfo Medina
2015-04-13 23:03           ` Bob Proulx
2015-04-15  6:34             ` Rodolfo Medina
     [not found]           ` <mailman.611.1428966213.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-13 23:23             ` [solved] " Emanuel Berg
2015-04-15 21:41               ` Bob Proulx
2015-04-16 15:38                 ` Rodolfo Medina
2015-04-16 21:16                   ` Bob Proulx
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.848.1429218983.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-16 22:58                     ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-17  2:46                       ` Rusi
2015-04-18 20:39                       ` Bob Proulx
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.1049.1429389591.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-19 21:42                         ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-19 23:29                           ` Bob Proulx
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.1135.1429490170.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-20  1:40                             ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.830.1429198561.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-16 22:47                   ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]               ` <mailman.782.1429134342.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-16  1:09                 ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2015-04-16  3:58                 ` Rusi
2015-04-16 22:44                   ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-17  3:00                     ` Rusi
2015-04-18 20:05                       ` Bob Proulx
     [not found]                       ` <mailman.1047.1429387523.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-19 11:59                         ` Jim Diamond
2015-04-19 23:35                           ` Bob Proulx
2015-04-20  7:46                           ` Alexis
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.1136.1429490171.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-21 17:53                             ` Jim Diamond
2015-04-18 21:08           ` Rodolfo Medina
2015-04-18 22:27             ` Bob Proulx
2015-04-18 22:59               ` Rodolfo Medina
     [not found]         ` <mailman.504.1428838317.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-12 14:36           ` [solved] " Rusi
2015-04-12 17:02             ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-12 18:50               ` Rodolfo Medina
2015-04-12 16:31           ` Emanuel Berg
2015-04-12 18:53             ` Rodolfo Medina
     [not found]       ` <mailman.482.1428779144.904.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-04-12  0:01         ` Emanuel Berg

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