From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Package initialization Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:07:05 +0200 Message-ID: <87a8ustq9i.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87twt1dmxu.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1437300512 32405 80.91.229.3 (19 Jul 2015 10:08:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 10:08:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" , Artur Malabarba , emacs-devel To: Helmut Eller Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 19 12:08:31 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGlWI-00086N-51 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:08:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50918 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGlWG-00005f-QR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 06:08:28 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34173) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGlVz-0008TO-MC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 06:08:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGlVz-00063S-20 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 06:08:11 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48750) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGlVo-00062Q-DG; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 06:08:00 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34332 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZGlUv-0008JB-UH; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 06:08:00 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5BF6BE0E09; Sun, 19 Jul 2015 12:07:05 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Helmut Eller's message of "Sun, 19 Jul 2015 11:58:59 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187974 Archived-At: Helmut Eller writes: > On Sun, Jul 19 2015, Artur Malabarba wrote: > >>> lisp-mode-hook.=A0 In general, lazy initialization would also not work >>> well if those autoloaded commands should be bound to keys because before >>> the first invocation the keys would not be bound. >> >> If the user wants to bind an autoloaded command to a key, they can do th= at >> just fine. > > How without adding something to .emacs? You can autoload on a prefix keymap as well I think. So if some bindings are to be present globally, you can do that without preloading the package itself. --=20 David Kastrup