From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Julien Cubizolles Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: From Gnus to mu4e Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 09:22:26 +0200 Message-ID: <87a8tezf7x.fsf@free.fr> References: <87d1yhpsbr.fsf@free.fr> <87lhczyl1p.fsf@free.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1440675041 29859 80.91.229.3 (27 Aug 2015 11:30:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 11:30:41 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 27 13:30:32 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUvO3-0000rn-Ju for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 13:30:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37515 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUvO2-0000m0-Qn for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 07:30:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34837) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUvNr-0000ke-2b for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 07:30:19 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUvNn-0005na-TP for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 07:30:19 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:52925) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUvNn-0005mf-Ns for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 07:30:15 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUvNa-0000UJ-Pa for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 13:30:02 +0200 Original-Received: from gas45-3-82-244-252-119.fbx.proxad.net ([82.244.252.119]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 13:30:02 +0200 Original-Received: from j.cubizolles by gas45-3-82-244-252-119.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 13:30:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 56 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: gas45-3-82-244-252-119.fbx.proxad.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:65gW47ELC8CA8cazKSqzOMYIKRM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:106863 Archived-At: Bastien writes: > Julien Cubizolles writes: > >> I'm considering moving from Gnus to mu4e, mostly because I spend too >> much time tinkering with settings I don't really understand/need in >> Gnus, and because the search feature seems promising. > > After a *lot* of scratching and testing, here is my setup: > > - Gnus for news and mails: because there are too many things I miss in > other MUA. A simple example: quote only the selected region when > replying. This cannot be implemented easily in mu and notmuch. > > - notmuch as a search engine: mu is really great (I used it the last > three months) but I cannot get used to mu4e. And starting mu4e with > a database of 100K emails takes two or three seconds. > > - mbsync to sync imap folders as local maildirs: I used offlineimap > for several years and mbsync is just faster. That seems very interesting, and I think I'll try to set it up. offlineimap or mbsync seems to be the right way to: + have a fast access to my mail (nnimap from Gnus on a remote server is a bit slow sometimes) + have a complete access from my mobile phone + I can still choose whatever MUA I want on top of that if I want to try something else thant Gnus and still access my old nnml mail. I have a few questions about some details of your setup: + regarding filtering and spam detection, do you rely on the possibilities offered by you mail provider (Gmail or other)? + you said you're running Dovecot. Gnus could also directly access the local maildir without a local imap server the way mu4e does, couldn't it ? What's the benefit of running it ? > - postfix with smtp_sender_dependent_authentication to use various > smtp servers depending on the email I'm using. I see people use > msmtp and msmtp-mta, which I tried for a while, but I'm just too > impatient with the .3s you have to wait when sending. From looking at my fossilized .gnus.el, I'm using smtpmail, which would be equivalent to msmtp. + I'm gonna need to duplicate this setup on two machines (laptop and desktop). I guess running offline imap on the two machines and synchronizing the nnml, nnarchive mail by unison would work. Thanks a lot for all this information. I've a much clearer idea of all the possibilities now. Julien.