From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: yes-or-no-p prompt conditionally broken in master? Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2015 09:20:26 +0200 Message-ID: <87a8t1s56t.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <83fv2v9y9z.fsf@gnu.org> <57355235-9af7-49fb-81b5-93182cfc9d49@default> <83a8t39x3t.fsf@gnu.org> <83zj128slp.fsf@gnu.org> <87k2s6o7qh.fsf@igel.home> <83wpw68j2n.fsf@gnu.org> <871teenysf.fsf@igel.home> <83r3me8ho3.fsf@gnu.org> <20150904133439.GB2991@acm.fritz.box> <83lhcm83vl.fsf@gnu.org> <87fv2ut5k4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83k2s682el.fsf@gnu.org> <877fo6t4f9.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83io7q7yrq.fsf@gnu.org> <83h9na7ydq.fsf@gnu.org> <87pp1yrlx0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83fv2t8i1i.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1441446442 18737 80.91.229.3 (5 Sep 2015 09:47:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 09:47:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, acm@muc.de, drew.adams@oracle.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 05 11:47:21 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZYA46-0004bX-GA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2015 11:47:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39063 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZYA45-0000Fg-Qz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2015 05:47:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33771) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZYA40-0000BP-Eg for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2015 05:47:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZYA3z-0007mE-GA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 05 Sep 2015 05:47:12 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42332) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZYA3v-0007hH-RO; Sat, 05 Sep 2015 05:47:07 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56148 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZYA3u-0004lT-Ii; Sat, 05 Sep 2015 05:47:07 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E3703E0F90; Sat, 5 Sep 2015 09:20:26 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83fv2t8i1i.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 05 Sep 2015 10:03:05 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:189628 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: David Kastrup >> Cc: dgutov@yandex.ru, bruce.connor.am@gmail.com, >> emacs-devel@gnu.org, schwab@linux-m68k.org, >> monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, acm@muc.de, >> drew.adams@oracle.com >> Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2015 22:04:27 +0200 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> > I meant it already works if the script supplies "y" or "n", not >> > literally "yes" and "no". If you had the latter in mind, then I see >> > no reason for a script to supply "yes" when it knows that Emacs needs >> > "y". >> >> How would the script know which user settings for the proposed >> customizable yes-or-no-p behavior options are active when it is used in >> a manner reading in the user init file before proceeding? > > The issue at hand was whether we need to have a way to make y-or-n-p > behave like yes-or-no-p. So the scripts we are supposed to discuss > are those that invoke y-or-n-p, whose behavior is not subject to > customizations under my proposal. > > So the scripts should always supply y followed by a newline. > >> > But we could, of course, extend y-or-n-p to accept "yes" and "no" when >> > in batch mode. >> > >> > IOW, it's a separate issue, whose solution is not necessarily to make >> > y-or-n-p work as yes-or-no-p. >> >> It's not entirely separate since it extends the manners in which Emacs >> might "legitimately" behave. > > In that regard, it indeed is not separate. But the number of manners > in which Emacs might behave is truly infinite, Not with regard to discrete-valued customizable options. -- David Kastrup