From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs IDE features Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:30:36 +0100 Message-ID: <87a8rfi20j.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <561A19AB.5060001@cumego.com> <87io6dl0h0.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87lhb82qxc.fsf@gmail.com> <87oag4jk74.fsf@wanadoo.es> <87k2qrki45.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83oag3oosv.fsf@gnu.org> <6909324d6de8929192a27fc0be8267d4@mail.iq.pl> <561D6773.4080003@cumego.com> <87d1wijwfs.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87eggxemca.fsf@russet.org.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445250674 12399 80.91.229.3 (19 Oct 2015 10:31:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 10:31:14 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 19 12:31:05 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zo7ia-00049j-76 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 12:31:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38091 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zo7iZ-0003K0-DW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 06:31:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57452) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zo7iQ-0003Jo-SU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 06:30:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zo7iM-0003sW-8b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 06:30:54 -0400 Original-Received: from cheviot12.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.234.12]:44602) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zo7iL-0003oq-Uw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 06:30:50 -0400 Original-Received: from smtpauth-vm.ncl.ac.uk ([10.8.233.129] helo=smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk) by cheviot12.ncl.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Zo7i8-0000oP-C1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:30:36 +0100 Original-Received: from jangai.ncl.ac.uk ([10.66.67.223] helo=localhost) by smtpauth.ncl.ac.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Zo7i8-0000ya-J3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:30:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: (John Wiegley's message of "Fri, 16 Oct 2015 16:13:54 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 128.240.234.12 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192063 Archived-At: John Wiegley writes: >>>>>> Phillip Lord writes: > >> I'd add number 4. Support Java properly. It's one of the most common >> languages in the world, and Emacs doesn't work with it. > > As a core Emacs developer who doesn't use Java, it's hard to make that a > "mission statement" for the whole emacs-devel team. > > However, I'd very much like it if someone could step up and volunteer as "Java > technical lead" to support this use case. I'd expect such a person to work > with the maintainers to imagine a better environment -- in the context of our > larger IDE discussion-- and engage others to help get the coding done. It is, > as you say, a large user base. > > What do you think, Phillip? :) Or anyone else? There is a bit of a chicken and egg thing here. I don't use Java very much these days either, and my own Emacs time is currently taken up with other things. We have seen some movement on the JDE mailing list recently, which has been good, and we have the links between JDE and emacs-devel. So, we already have this in place to some extent. I don't mind trying to support any movement of code that needs to happen from the various Java modes out there into core that I can. I think that is the most I could commit to. Phil