From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marcin Borkowski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2016 21:57:16 +0200 Message-ID: <87a8hvc0yr.fsf@mbork.pl> References: <87h9cdmj6t.fsf@delle7240.chemeng.ucl.ac.uk> <5775A512.4020803@gmail.com> <8337ntvm2d.fsf@gnu.org> <5776B89F.60704@gmail.com> <83k2h5tbtv.fsf@gnu.org> <5776E1F4.3020709@gmail.com> <83eg7ctt90.fsf@gnu.org> <87poqwpfld.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83y45ks69l.fsf@gnu.org> <87inwkari1.fsf@mbork.pl> <83eg77oott.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467748693 27438 80.91.229.3 (5 Jul 2016 19:58:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2016 19:58:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stromeko@nexgo.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 05 21:58:07 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bKWTr-0004WC-NW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 21:58:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57775 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKWTq-0006Et-N3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 15:58:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33880) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKWTF-0006D9-JE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 15:57:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKWTD-0005kq-ID for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 15:57:24 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([2a01:5e00:2:52::8]:56383) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bKWT6-0005fr-O4; Tue, 05 Jul 2016 15:57:16 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1D315770; Tue, 5 Jul 2016 21:57:15 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.mojserwer.eu Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.mojserwer.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CQYOR2lhPx9v; Tue, 5 Jul 2016 21:57:11 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (98-171.echostar.pl [213.156.98.171]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9F3ED1576F; Tue, 5 Jul 2016 21:57:11 +0200 (CEST) User-agent: mu4e 0.9.16; emacs 25.1.50.3 In-reply-to: <83eg77oott.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2a01:5e00:2:52::8 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:205205 Archived-At: On 2016-07-05, at 21:41, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Marcin Borkowski >> Cc: Achim Gratz , emacs-devel@gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 05 Jul 2016 20:07:02 +0200 >> >> >> On 2016-07-02, at 12:07, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >> > You are missing the point. The point is how much of the basic >> > functionality one needs to master before they can use a single feature >> >> As I said, in case of Org, next to none. > > That is false (I do use Org seriously). No, it isn't. In order to start to use outlining (one feature) you only need to know how to mark up headlines (bol + stars + space + title) and how to use TAB to cycle visibility. Next is M-RET (or C-RET) and C-c C-p/C-c C-n. Next feature - TODO items - you only need -- Marcin Borkowski http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski Faculty of Mathematics and Computer Science Adam Mickiewicz University