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From: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: p.stephani2@gmail.com, 28156@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#28156: Emacs quietly munges symlink contents
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2017 13:38:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a82p8abu.fsf@detlef> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <787f2dca-7135-3da5-4516-99d12ecf8edd@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Tue, 22 Aug 2017 09:03:52 -0700")

Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> writes:

> On 08/22/2017 12:28 AM, Michael Albinus wrote:
>> If you want to have an absolute filename as LINKNAME, you typically call
>>
>> (make-symbolic-link (expand-file-name target) (expand-file-name linkname))
>>
>> In case of remote file names, (expand-file-name linkname) will always
>> return something like "/method:user@host:/path/to/linkname". I doubt,
>> that a user wants to see this literal string as symbolic link.
>
> There seems to be some confusion here, as Bug#28156 does not propose
> any change to how make-symbolic-link's 2nd argument works,
> (expand-file-name linkname) in this case. If the 2nd argument
> specifies a remote name, as in your example, then Tramp will take over
> and do whatever it wants with both arguments, so Bug#28156 is not
> proposing any change there (although perhaps some changes would be
> helpful for consistency, that's a different matter).

Sorry, I have confused the 1st and 2nd argument of make-symbolic-link.
Tramp's docstring is wrong, because it does the same error, for decades.
Will fix it.

However, it is Tramp's (almost undocumented) make-symbolic-link
implementation to handle TARGET as well, and to strip the remote part of
this. I wouldn't be surprised if existing packages will be broken if we
change this.

Coming to your examples, I believe the existing implementation gives you
almost all what is needed, with quoting. Using "~" in TARGET:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
M-x make-symbolic-link RET /:~eggert RET /tmp/foo RET

# ls -l /tmp/foo
lrwxrwxrwx 1 albinus albinus 21 Aug 24 13:19 /tmp/foo -> /home/albinus/~eggert
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

It is questionable whether "/:~eggert" shall be expanded to
"/home/albinus/~eggert". I agree with you, that it shouldn't, the target
shall be just  "~eggert".

Using ":" in TARGET would look like:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
M-x make-symbolic-link RET /:/x:y RET /tmp/foo RET

# ls -l /tmp/foo
lrwxrwxrwx 1 albinus albinus 4 Aug 24 13:23 /tmp/foo -> /x:y
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

For a TARGET which looks like a remote file name, I propose to keep the
current behaviour (stripping the remote part). It shall be equivalent to
just using the local file name of TARGET. So we would have:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
M-x make-symbolic-link RET /sudo::/:~eggert RET /sudo::/tmp/bar RET

# ls -l /tmp/bar
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Aug 24 13:26 /tmp/bar -> ~eggert

;; This example does not work yet.
M-x make-symbolic-link RET /:~eggert RET /sudo::/tmp/bar RET

# ls -l /tmp/bar
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Aug 24 13:26 /tmp/bar -> ~eggert
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---



--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
M-x make-symbolic-link RET /sudo::/:/x:y RET /sudo::/tmp/bar RET

# ls -l /tmp/foo
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Aug 24 13:30 /tmp/bar -> /x:y

;; This example does not work yet.
M-x make-symbolic-link RET /:/x:y RET /sudo::/tmp/bar RET

# ls -l /tmp/foo
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Aug 24 13:30 /tmp/bar -> /x:y
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

By this, you don't need to handle "~" special in make-symbolic-link, as
your patch proposes. After all, it is just proper file name quoting, and
fixing the bug mentioned above.

Best regards, Michael.





  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-24 11:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-20 10:28 bug#28156: Emacs quietly munges symlink contents Paul Eggert
2017-08-20 13:48 ` Michael Albinus
2017-08-20 14:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-20 15:09   ` Philipp Stephani
2017-08-20 15:38     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-20 17:54       ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-20 18:28         ` Michael Albinus
2017-08-20 18:53           ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-20 19:15             ` Michael Albinus
2017-08-20 21:47               ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-21  7:36                 ` Michael Albinus
2017-08-20 19:21             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-20 21:31               ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-21  2:34                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-21  8:34                   ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-21 14:25                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-21 15:58                       ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-20 19:16         ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-21 17:34           ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-21 17:59             ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-21 20:30               ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-22  7:28                 ` Michael Albinus
2017-08-22 16:03                   ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-24 11:38                     ` Michael Albinus [this message]
2017-08-25  5:12                       ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-25 12:45                         ` Michael Albinus
2017-08-26 13:16                           ` Michael Albinus
2017-08-27  1:53                           ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-20 22:19       ` npostavs
2017-08-20 23:00         ` Paul Eggert

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